#fantasychat

#fantasychat 05.20.11 Transcript
- about 12 hours ago Visit my blog http://t.co/uGU1VFbt and the group blog I’m apart at http://t.co/ax5CnFdv #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago I gots to eat and then maybe write something. Or try to fool around with friggin word. I hate it. I hates it, precious. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Adieu to all. I’m going to fiddle about with my site a bit, then fall asleep like a good writer. http://t.co/Mgk53ib6 #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @maidenhair_ You’re welcome! #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago But yeah… There aren’t enough pro SF/F fiction magazines. I demand more, and more. More anthologies, too!#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Adios all. Until next week… #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago I’m going to start submitting shorts to any market I can. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett Wild westy! lol #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago For me, adios! It’s time for Sherlock!#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Yeah, I’m gonna submit to this place, probably. Looks really good for that. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @marilynmuniz As always, thank you! :)#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Thanks again for coming, feel free to promo and see you all next week! #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Twas fun. And wild. And very westy.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Remember to visit @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Next week’s topic will be ePublishing since we have much more to say on the subject. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Thank you everyone for attending tonight’s chat! #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @DavidalBarron Beneath Ceaseless Skies and Clarkesworld. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @DavidalBarron Is it free to subscribe? Or no? Probably not. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @john_zeleznik This one started in a creative writing class in HS. I had to listen to audio and write a story based on it #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @john_zeleznik The whole soundtrack is great. I listened to it many times while in Yellowstone. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @marilynmuniz I’ve got Lightspeed & Beneath Ceaseless Skies regularly, and a few more I pick up as I see them.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett It happened by accident as the story unfolded on last summer’s project. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @DavidalBarron Went to look. Maybe they’ll take a submission or two. Hmmm. I’m going to check it out.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @john_zeleznik I actually have a ‘world’ I created that is a what if with western and fantasy. And the USA being south America #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett Good idea! #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Lightspeed Magazine, http://t.co/hA9CNw5Q,the premier (to my taste) e-magazine of SF and F. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett I actually prefer Ecstasy of Gold from the movie. One of my fav movie scenes of all time.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @Plotspider The publisher is Orbit if I remember currently. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @marilynmuniz Speaking of…maybe we should have a list of good EZines that publish fantasy on the Reader site.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago I have a fantasy/western mash-up based on one of my series kicking around. Heh. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @DavidalBarron I just subscribed to Lightspeed and a couple more ezines. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @john_zeleznik ..There is a link to the good, the bad, and the ugly theme here somewhere XD #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @DavidalBarron Lightspeed? Is that a publisher? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett lol…It’s just our creativity at play. :) #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago RT @warrencbennett: Baron Von Barron and FuzzyBeard have to stop Evil Writespider Eightguns and save the mayor’s daughter! #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @john_zeleznik How about wyatt pub.?#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I hunger for short stories, in anthology or fiction mag form. For instance: Lightspeed does Fantasy, now.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ I admit to being a shameless agitator and Old West Promoter. :) #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Wyatt Kindle is the best I got. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ Pfft. WE all contributed to it XD#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ Screaming as it goes. Thelma and Louis don’t have nothing on us. Hehe #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Baron Von Barron and FuzzyBeard have to stop Evil Writespider Eightguns and save the mayor’s daughter!#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron Oh boy, I’ll see what I can do, I guess. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Once again I feel I must apologize for sending the chat careening off topic. :) #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago “The Schemes of Writespider Eightguns” is my new favorite title for an as-yet-unwritten short story. Get on that.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @john_zeleznik I was saying earlier I feel more comfortable writing shorts. I’ve finished a ton of short stories.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Like that spider from American Tale 2 #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago RT @warrencbennett: “Writespider Eightguns is in his den, a plottin’.” #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago “The OffTopic Train has done passed this place and left a storm in its wake.” #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @john_zeleznik I tend to agree, but that don’t stop me from trying. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I wish that I had a talent for short stories. I just don’t. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago “Writespider Eightguns is in his den, a plottin’.”#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Oh, oops. We wandered into the rabbit hole of no!topic SHORT STORIES: Awesome. That’s my vote.#FantasyChat
- about 13 hours ago I think too big for the short stories. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @john_zeleznik *waves* Craziness in here tonight. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Writerspider Eightguns. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @john_zeleznik um..the chat started out talking about short stories. NOw it is on the wild west of epublishing, heh.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron lol…it does suit you!#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron Lol #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett I forgive you for your previous offenses against punnery. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Though the topic is short storying. What do you think about fantasy short storying? #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago “The Barnes n Noble stage is comin’ in! It’s a GLOWIN’ NOW!” #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @john_zeleznik We’re making western names for our epublishing personas. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago RT @warrencbennett: Showdown at the OKindle Corral #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ Baron von Barron, vicious eBook-puncher and rustler of the hearts of ladies. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Sorry I’m late guys, what’s up? #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Showdown at the OKindle Corral #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I, for one, shall not rest until the name of Doc Hollincash is known throughout the ePub Wild West. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Crazy 8s #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron FuzzyBeard is better than Fuzzybritches I suppose… #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron Daring Dave the Baron of ePublishing! ;) #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidAlBarron do you still have that work flow chart on your site? @Plotspider #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron Lol! #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago #fantasychat @Plotspider Electric Barbarella! ;)
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett @maidenhair_ Yes, this is a good trend. Let’s all create gunslinger names for our ePub personas#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Better than iNovella… #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Reminds me of a Duran Duran song! ;) RT@Plotspider: @DavidalBarron I think electronic novella sounds fancier to me. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Whatever it’s called, does anyone have a favorite route to publishing the dern things. Personally I hate smashwords.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett lol…you got it, FuzzyBeard!#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @plotspider Oh, very well. eNovella, so we sound cool. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ Call me FuzzyBeard Bennett. Fastest typer in the Ol’ AZ. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron I think electronic novella sounds fancier to me. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I’m only using “Kindle Single” as a generic term for electronic novella. It sounds fancier. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago #fantasychat Kindle singles are just shorter-than-long, longer-than-short chunks, whether non-fiction or fiction.
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Probably. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider You know @DavidalBarron is a good guy for advice on that front. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron @plotspider finish them first, then serialize ‘em. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron Of course. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago The Good, The bad, and the ugly:http://t.co/6M4QJB84 #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett I might just. Anyone liking any particular publishing methods? Smashwords, Amazon? What’s best, easiest? #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett lol…QuickDraw Bennett?#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @plotspider Serial novels work fine. …so long as you finish them! #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago #fantasychat That’s what #KindleSingles are?
- about 13 hours ago *Insert good, bad, ugly theme song here*#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider go for it, see what happens.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ I have me here a 10 shooter. *Wiggles fingers* #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago That was how many Victorian era novels were actually published. Pieces at a time, episodes. A miniseries if you will. Hmmm #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I’ve just had idea for starting a business model. Create short novel bites and sell them one at a time (20-30k each).#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett It’s like the wild west right now. :) #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett @KarenBridget777 You can ePub a novella, then stitch together a few into a print book. Flexible! #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago But short fiction/stories/novels/novellas are prefect for the ‘on the go’ lifestyle imho. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Well the epublishing/selfpublishing arena is so new… Still finding its legs. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @KarenBridget777 Yup. @Davidalbarron is right about short novels as well. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @karenbridget777 @warrencbennett Insofar as there are shortfic mags, but Kindles love novellas (Kindle Singles!)#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Anyone got short series out there? It’s not a bad idea, but I don’t know if people would buy it. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron @warrencbennett #fantasychat Hmmm…true.
- about 13 hours ago After I move, I’m going to be hitting the epublishing world pretty hard. Already writing content for it.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Yeppers. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago guess I didn’t catch it. I usually just sort of overlook puns like that. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @karenbridget777 @warrencbennett ePub is a great short story market, but it’s an even better “short book” market (20k-40k) #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron No money for that yet, but congratulations on that. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @PlotSpider cf. RT @warrencbennett:@DavidalBarron That is a ‘novel’ concept! *chortles* #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider @davidalbarron I made a bad joke :P #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I was just thinking that the other day! RT@warrencbennett: I believe epublishing is the new ‘short story’ market. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Again, I agree. Trying to do it, but haven’t got there consistently yet. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz @plotspider sounds good :)#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I just now finished transitioning from a Blogger blog to a proper site that I own and control. It’s a good step.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron heh. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I believe epublishing is the new ‘short story’ market. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron Why ya booin’? What’s with that? #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron You’re right. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett @plotspider *cough* I have that covered. *cough* #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Boo. Hiss. Booooooo.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron ABSOLUTELY AGREE!#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago #fantasychat All of my characters in my fictional world are all from the same world.
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ Also, if you’ve written a bunch of short stories, you’ve taught yourself how to “Finish”. An important skill. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett That could also be a chat topic one week. Someone puts something out there and we all add to it and see? #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider Maybe a weekly flash challenge?#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider Start a thread in the group and let us see what happens. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron That is a ‘novel’ concept! *chortles* #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider Yeah I realize I have a bit more time to do stuff like that than most folks. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @DavidalBarron I agree. I believe it takes talent to write a good short story. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Yeah, or maybe we could put a section there for that? #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett I’m a teacher, so it’s difficult to keep up with it. I’ve a child on the way, so even more so.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett That would be cool. :)#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider Something like that high fantasy blog but for writers, not readers? #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago You can judge a fiction writer best by the quality of his short stories. Novels are graduate school. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ Maybe an old techno wizard made it #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider Since I did that, I now have 5 days of blog updates. I’ve seen my blog visits rise as well #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago You know, I wish we had a blog in common to do projects like this. We could do a challenge a week or something. Write to it. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett What about a steampunk squirrel? #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago #fantasychat Now that I’ll be writing in one room and sleeping in another, I think it will be easier to get on an organized schedule.
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz yes XD #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ See I was thinking he was made of metal and magically crafted. An old wizard created a forest just forfakeanimals #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz lol…sorry for careening completely off-topic! #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz @plotspider I’ve done that before as well. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz well a first draft is just that, a first draft. They are never perfect. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett A shiny squirrel? Did I miss something? #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Maybe he got loose in a glitter factory. :) #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett That’s not a bad idea.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider I put myself on a blog schedule. I do Fiction one day, movies another. Gaming another..etc. Helps me keep focused #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider I posted a draft of my old prologue on site. let everyone know it was a draft and will have mistakes.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago And even my blogs still need editing. But it is a drafting sight. Eh, whatever. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ Heh. That could be a short story there. Why is there a Shiny Squirrel? Hmmm #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Which is why I’m slow to blog. Unless I know exactly what I want to say, or have a good draft, I don’t do it. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Shiny squirrels…wow…my mind just skipped a beat! lol #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett I tried but it hasn’t worked out so well. But during edits, i make sure to cut back a lot.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider Well just assume when you put yourself out there in public, someone will read it. Act accordingly.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Oh, I got that. I love that movie. Can’t watch it unless I’m really in a good mood, though.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I have drafted some stories out on my blog, but no one just considers a blog to be a first draft, and so it may backfire. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz @warrencbennett #fantasychat In narration or in dialogue? Some characters will not shut up!
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ …some squirrels are shiny. But that was a reference to UP :P #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago You do make an impression through a blog, whether you want to or not, and that bugs me a little. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz Exactly my problem, too. I think it is because I consider blogging to be a type of publishing.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz Maybe you should write a story like a blog post. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Not so much squirrel for me…more…SHINY!! #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider I don’t necessarily agree about the spark. If I’ve written it well, revisiting usually reignites it.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett I’m not a wordy blogger but I’m wordy in my drafts. Go figure. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago That’s where theme comes in. If I can figure out what i was trying to say initially, I can sometime get back in okay.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago LOL! :) RT @warrencbennett: @maidenhair_@KarenBridget777 I, Too have… SQUIRREL! #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I find it interesting how content writing is changing me as well. I have to write compelling stuff in 500 words or lessusually #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett LOL. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett I’m trying to address it as well but for me, I write freely and edit tightly. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider I grew up on Tolkien, Asimov, Clark, Niven (well niven was a big book writer) Lewis… LLoyd alexaner. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I want to “rehearse” a scene but can’t find my cheap Barbies. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I’m actually not wordy enough these days. I don’t dig down into the character like I want to. Working on it.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ @KarenBridget777 I, Too have… SQUIRREL! #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ It’s really hard to come back to something and respark it. A short story is a firework, perhaps.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago RT @Plotspider: @maidenhair_ I think thats a sign of a very good writer: one who can say it best in fewest words.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider @maidenhair_ I used to be a very wordy writer, I’ve worked at cutting that down. Especially after reading WOT #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider Definitely! #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett I grew up on Ray Bradbury stories. Loved them. But they were more about plot than setting.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @KarenBridget777 I have attention issues too. I just find the words flow with more life if I catch them when they’re most alive #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Sometimes, however, I need to get out of just being ‘imagist’ in my works and really expand out some things.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I grew up reading a ton of golden age scifi stuff, many ‘books’ might be considered novellas today. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago #fantasychat From the disorganization of having my house all torn up off and on for the past month.
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ I think that’s a sign of a very good writer: one who can say it best in fewest words. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago See I grew up reading scifi/fantasy from an age when books were smaller and short stories were more abundant#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ That’s what I’ve decided to do as well. I’ve had attention span issues recently. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Personally, I admire writers that are adept@short stories. It’s skill that I need to work on. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider some XD I have no idea how many. But I’ve read novels like that as well. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett I agree completely.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @KarenBridget777 I come back later and stitch them all together into a chapter and eventually a novel.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett It takes some definite talent. Notice you said ‘some.’ How many have you read where you went “what?” or “meh” #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett @plotspider I agree.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @KarenBridget777 I try to capture the scenes when they’re most vivid and alive in my mind…. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider I don’t know. I’ve read many good shorts that do character development/setting well in few words.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett That’s what usually happens to me. I write a good story, but it needs more grounding to be best.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Most of my short stories grow in novels or wannabe novels. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider sometimes you don’t need a sheath. We need to shock the reader in short order. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago #fantasychat If I just tell myself I’m only writing a scene, the juices start flowing and I can put out several pages!
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Maybe fluff is the wrong word. Development? Depth? A short story is like skipping a rock across a pond? #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ I have written a couple of short stories that were really novels. I have those in my “to do” list.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett A short stor. is like laying electrical wire. It has to get the message across fast, but needs sheath for wire #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider I agree about the compelling nature of stories, but I when I think of fluff I think “Stuff that needs to be cut.” #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett In some cases you have to have it to help develop and ground the scene. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago #fantasychat Sometimes the idea of having to juggle all the balls in the air for a novel is just too daunting.
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider It has to be as unique and memorable for itself. Hard to do, at least I think so. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago My ideas are large and don’t fit in a short stories. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett I start out with good intentions but sometimes it’s hard to rein it in. But that’s the challenge for me. :) #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Sure, but this is ‘fantasy’ chat, after all. Fantasy means the setting is almost an extra character. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider Yes but do you really need fluff? Novels can be to packed with that. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett I know what you mean about seeing the story in scenes but I still have problems with short stories. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett A short story has to be compelling and convincing, which doesn’t give you a lot of room for fluff or developmen #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I come from the idea that a story can be unique even in a mundane or “i’ve seen it before” type world. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Me too! RT @warrencbennett: @maidenhair_I’ve always found it easier. Not sure why - maybe because my brain works in scenes. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider Short stories force you narrow your view. It’s not necessarily bad. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett With a novel, you have a lot more wriggle room. You have a lot more area for fluff. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago And I need to do more of it. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ I’ve always found it easier. Not sure why - maybe because my brain works in scenes. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Two out of three of my published works are shorts. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago #fantasychat If I get stuck I tell myself OK just going to write a short story. Ends up being something I can use.
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ As do I. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider It’s no different from anything else though. Historical/Scifi/Noir…you have to do the same with all.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago If the fantasy elements are not unique enough for the world, then what’s the point of having a world different.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz I do something like that too. :)#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago That can be difficult to do, particularly when shorts are usually aimed at initiates to the world, I think.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Short story writing is just a different style of writing. It’s a lot more challenging. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett The trick with fantasy is that you have to lay a groundwork/foundation for the world AND get story told. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @KarenBridget777 Thanks :) #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I write short stories for background information for my characters. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ Yeah… In fact shorts are easier for me, to be honest. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider I don’t think cannon has anything to do with how short a story… The length depends on what story I want to tell. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ I’m either too wordy or have trouble adding words. I’m never in the middle. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett I agree. I don’t think short stories are any harder with fantasy. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz No, not lately. I’ll talk about it later. All I’ll say is this: DO NOT TRUST MS WORD. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz *waves back* #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Awesome! I’ve read some! I like them! RT@warrencbennett: Fantasy. I think it is as easy or hard as any other genre. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ @plotspider Yo! #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett Well, it depends on exactly how you wish to go about establishing canon for your universe.#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @KarenBridget777: @Plotspider Tablets are not fast enough for me when I type. I get irritated. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett *waves* #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider Ouch. Not even copy and paste?#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @warrencbennett @plotspider Hey! :)#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Fantasy. I think it is as easy or hard as any other genre. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I think short stories are an excellent medium for self-publishing. I’ve published two of them so far. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago I don’t think Fantasy makes short stories hard. You can look at what I write on my blog every week - most of my shorts are… #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @marilynmuniz I like short stories but they’ve always been a challenge to me. I’m wordy. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider I hate my laptop in general. Increasingly more of a tablet girl. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Anyway, short stories. Fantasy makes short storying kind of hard I think. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Hola hola hola. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago What do you think of short stories?#fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago It won’t save any of my work. I”m trying to transfer a story out of it, but don’t have enough time to do it before glitches.. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider What happened? #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago But that’s not the topic, so ‘nuff said about that for now. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @KarenBridget777 Cool. Maybe I’ll join in. I’m doing a critique and then editing my dark fantasy… #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @maidenhair_ *waves* #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Coo’ #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Hello again, I’m a very frustrated plotspider today. I hate microsoft. It’s evil. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Tonight’s topic is Short Stories. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago ‘Evening all :) #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Please visit the @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago Welcome everyone to @fantasy_chat! Feel free to introduce yourself at any time. Save all promotion until the end of the chat. #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @Plotspider *Waves* #fantasychat
- about 13 hours ago @KarenBridget777 #fantasychat? What’s that?
- about 13 hours ago @BA_Matthews Thinking about it.#fantasychat starts in a couple minutes. Maybe not until then.
- about 13 hours ago Hello. I’m here. #fantasychat
- about 14 hours ago Less than 10 minutes before we begin!#fantasychat
Posted on May 21, 2012
#fantasychat 05.06.11 Transcript
- less than a minute ago @john_zeleznik I figured. Good luck!#fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Revisiting last summer’s project and starting another one in June. #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago @GarrettOstrich You’re welcome! Come back the following week. #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Visit my blog http://t.co/uGU1VFbt and the group blog I’m apart at http://t.co/ax5CnFdv #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Thanks again for coming, feel free to promo and see you all next week! #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Thanks. Cool times. #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Book related stuff I probably shouldn’t be too public about. #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago Remember to visit @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago Thanks #fantasychat Really helped me out with lot of questions and gave me a lot to think about!
- about 2 minutes ago Next week there will be no chat due to Mother’s Day. We’ll return the following with the topic of Short Stories. #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago Thank you everyone for attending tonight’s chat! #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago @Plotspider Good night! #fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago @Plotspider Oh, I understand. #fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago Nature calls and all. Sorry. #fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago I gotta go now. My books are Drinna, The Dust Finders, and The Afterknight. Please check them out. I’ll trade one for review #fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Oh? Do tell. #fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago @Plotspider Yeah, it does depend on the ehouse. But it is higher than traditional. #fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I’m sticking it out. Fighting for rights and such and breaking contract is very difficult stuff#fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @Plotspider Unless that changed since the last time I dived into the difference. #fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago Going to be busy week for me! #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @Plotspider I don’t know the exactly figure. But authors aren’t getting more money for the ebooks with traditional publishing. #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Depends. My epub is giving me 30%. It was my first, so we’ll see if I can get more. #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @Plotspider Hi! #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @Wyld_Dandelyon That of course is true. And hello there! #fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago @Plotspider But you get more profit than traditional publishing. Somewhere in the 40% range compared to maybe 20% or so. #fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago @warrencbennett (I forgot the hashtag too.)#fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago @warrencbennett Finding good stuff was always an issue. Traditional publishers published lots of stuff I thought was awful. #fantasychat
- about 10 minutes ago whoops, forgot to put the hashtag on those last few answers. #fantasychat
- about 10 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Well, e-pub. are just people doing the same thing, but on the internet. #fantasychat
- about 10 minutes ago @warrencbennett Yup and the growth of e-publishers for those who don’t want to deal with traditional.#fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @warrencbennett Let me know when you drop something out there. #fantasychat
- about 12 minutes ago @warrencbennett which is precisely why I want to go traditional again. But you don’t get as much for each sale. It balances. #fantasychat
- about 12 minutes ago I’m going to be hitting both traditional and selfpublishing later this summer. #ihaveaplan #fantasychat
- about 13 minutes ago @marilynmuniz It requires you to do things I don’t wanna, like shuffle through a whole bunch of forums that die.#fantasychat
- about 13 minutes ago @marilynmuniz You hit on one of the reasons Traditional Publishing houses won’t go away. #fantasychat
- about 13 minutes ago I am going to try and go back traditional with a novel next. Maybe self-pub. a few shorter works later on.#fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago @Plotspider I couldn’t do it. All that marketing. #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago I’m not an artist, and not a marketer. I was more trying to just learn how to do it with some quicky stuff.#fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Sadly, it does work. I know an author who noticed a drop in his sells when he didn’t tweet that day. #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago I’ll admit, I’m not terribly proud of my third s.p. work, but I did the best I could with it and did not just toss it out. #fantasychat
- about 15 minutes ago @Plotspider @marilynmuniz I look at it more like a shotgun blast. #fantasychat
- about 15 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Me, too! #fantasychat
- about 15 minutes ago @Plotspider Yeah the biggest problem of self publishing is finding the good stuff. #fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago @marilynmuniz People who do that publish a LOT of stuff as fast as they can. Like spreading a net. #fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I suck at Marketing. But I think it’s great to sell a 40 page work for .99. Its just when its crap, its bad. #fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I unfollowed someone that kept trying to ‘hard sale’ his stuff. I hated that… #fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago @warrencbennett @john_zeleznik I’m the same way. If someone finds my work by accident and likes it, it just saves me time. #fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago @Plotspider How do you expect to make a living off of it? #fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago @marilynmuniz The pricing doesn’t bother me, to be honest. We authors just have to adapt. #fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago And really bad “marketing” by those who take that path on Twitter. #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago @warrencbennett Yep. So am I. #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I just want to make it - don’t care if it is traditional or not. #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago @warrencbennett @plotspider …..to make sells. #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago @Plotspider I understand that, but I’m not speaking about vanity presses. I’m speaking of actual writers uploading works #fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago @marilynmuniz because they figure everyone will buy something. it’s like playing a low-pay lottery. #fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago @warrencbennett @Plotspider I want to make it the way the authors I loved made it. #fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago @GarrettOstrich The rise of Ebook readers helped set the tone for Self published ebooks. #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @warrencbennett @plotspider The downside of self-publishing is the pricing of ebooks. Authors are pricing book so low……… #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @warrencbennett Which van. presses do for you. #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @john_zeleznik which is what demeans the industry in general. Low editing quality, low product. values, Mary Sue, etc. #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @john_zeleznik on ebook platforms and the like. #fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @warrencbennett Now that you can have then on hand in E form it makes a lot more sense then it did back then #fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @john_zeleznik When I say self publishing, I’m not talking about vanity presses. I’m talking authors putting their own work up #fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago My problem, truthfully, with self-pub is there are still too many vanity presses. #fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago @warrencbennett One of the problems with self publishing, like anything, is that pesky Sturgeon’s law.#fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago I know I never would’ve guess self publishing would explode like it did. Ebooks were tried in the late 90s and failed. #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @GarrettOstrich You have a point, but there are a ton of authors that are good. But you have to sift to find some of ‘em. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Yup. Things change but stay the same sometimes. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago With how things have been evolving self publishing will eventually give something worth keeping. Traditional will have to stay #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @Plotspider I don’t think they will. Well I think the ones that don’t adapt might. However the ones that do won’t. #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @warrencbennett Plus there will be growth of e-publishers. #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago @warrencbennett …if self publishers continue to build a reputation for doing things right. #fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago @warrencbennett Oh, I don’t know. They might die out eventually, at least where fiction is concerned, if…#fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago Traditional publishing houses wn’t go away, but they need to really rethink things. #fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago RT @warrencbennett: Self publishing is a genie that cant be stuffed back in the bottle now. It is here to stay, regardless. #fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago @warrencbennett Very true. #fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago Mainly, I was just messing around with that anyway. I just thought it was funny. #fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago Self publishing is a genie that can’t be stuffed back in the bottle now. It is here to stay, regardless. #fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago No, I try to write for intelligent consumers, but not all consumers are intelligent. #fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago However, I know that there is a reason that silly things get popular that seem to have no redeemable quality.#fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago @warrencbennett @plotspider Yup. It’s more work but receiving most of the profit is plus. #fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago @warrencbennett I don’t think all of them are dolts. I certainly hope not, because I don’t like to dumb down lit. However… #fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago I was seriously inspired as much by TV shows like Dallas & Dynasty as Dragonlance. #fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @Plotspider See I don’t assume the average consumer are dolts, like many. So I think it is good. #fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @warrencbennett lovely. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago Fantasy in the 90s…it was like a long boil that came to a head in 99/00. Then exploded all over the kitchen.#fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @warrencbennett Remember, Twilight has been popular. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @warrencbennett They’re just at the whim of the…duh, duh, DUH!!!, average consumer. Which can be good or bad. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @warrencbennett I wonder how self-publishing will change with the Justice Department going after the big publishers and Apple. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I’ll see if I can use my spiders to find it, heh. If I can I’ll send you a link. #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago A pity it’s gone. #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago @Plotspider Nope, but it means the reading public is no longer at the whim of the PR department of Publishing houses. #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago There was a copy online for a while, but it’s gone now. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @warrencbennett It was called Precinct 17 I think and they only filmed a pilot. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @warrencbennett Agreed on that. But just because we can fling it out there, doesn’t mean it will trend. Unless it’s good. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @warrencbennett I remember reading the series in high school, but that would be late 90s for me.#fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @john_zeleznik What show was that?@plotspider #fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @Plotspider Ron D Moore (Battlestar Galactica) tried a TV show like that. It sounded AWeSOME!#fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago Also self publishing is really upsetting trends. The traditional publishing world still doesn’t have a grasp on it.#fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Well, that’s the height of modernism, though. #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @john_zeleznik As you’ve said. Write what you like and can get out there. It’s cool with me. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago I”ve noticed a lot of Star Wars and Dune series books going head to head lately in the stores. Don’t know if that’s going… #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @warrencbennett I haven’t read it yet. Another book to add to my list. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @Plotspider DC Comic did Arrowsmith a bunch of years back and that’s exactly what it was. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @Plotspider I like Sanderson. It also helps he is my age, so much of what he talks about I totally get. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @Plotspider Doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t write it. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @marilynmuniz No it started really changing in the mid 90s. I think the Wheel of TIme series really started big fantasy sales. #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @warrencbennett I have heard of him. I’ve heard he’s good, but haven’t touched him. #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @warrencbennett But that was a real 90’s early 00’s sort of thing, and I haven’t seen its like lately. Maybe I’m not looking. #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Brandon Sanderson has a series he started in 2010. The first book is Way of Kings. Awesome read #fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago @warrencbennett I remember that. It wasn’t until the LoTR movies came out that changed right? #fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago @Plotspider @john_zeleznik That sounds awesome. That could have a lot of potential given the right plot#fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago RT @marilynmuniz With the end of Wheel of Times series coming next year, will there be another series to replace it? #fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago @GarrettOstrich What @warrencbennettjust said. All depends what you angle you are playing. #fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago @Plotspider Hey that is a book series? I almost started watching the tv series on Netflix last night.#fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago With the end of Wheel of Times series coming next year, will there be another series to replace it? #fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago I haven’t noticed it really trending, but maybe it will. I read the first of the Dresden files, but that’s been out a while #fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago @GarrettOstrich I’d say let the story decide what type of language is used. A mobster isn’t going to talk the same as a nun. #fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Fantasy set in the modern world on Earth, or something like that. Trolls in ties, and such like.#fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago RT @john_zeleznik: @GarrettOstrich Ignore all trends. Write what you write. Quality trumps trends.#fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago @Plotspider Kind of funny, I’m about to write a series of shorts set in an urban fantasy environment. #fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago Heck, do any of you remember when “Fantasy didn’t sell?” You only had a few people really writing fantasy.#fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago @Plotspider What do you mean by modern fantasy? #fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago @warrencbennett @john_zeleznik Another question if you don’t mind. How far do I take foul language for a collegeish audience #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago I’m NOT seeing any trending towards modern fantasy these days, but I may just not be reading that, so let me hear it. #fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago @Plotspider My exact thoughts.#fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago @john_zeleznik @garretostrich I totally agree with that #fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I have one too. Even started writing it. May go back to it one day. #fantasychat
- about 45 minutes ago When LoTR came out in the movies, it brought up a lot of Epic Fantasy thoughts. And then, there was Eragon. #fantasychat
- about 45 minutes ago @Plotspider I can see that. Bella is the Mary Sue of desire. #fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Yup, but being #twilighthuge brings ‘em all out. I’m not a fan of the books, but I don’t begrudge her success. #fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago @GarrettOstrich Ignore all trends. Write what you write. Quality trumps trends. #fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I don’t remember that line at all. #fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago @warrencbennett No matter how big or small, there will always be haters. #fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago @Plotspider I think it is. I know i’m tired of it - but it isn’t going to go away, nor should it. I just want more variety#fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago @marilynmuniz It’s very interesting to look at. It’s very intricate and cool, but must be uncomfortable to wear. :) #fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago @warrencbennett @plotspider Completely! Do my own thing & dont worry about if I sound like someone else. Its my work after all #fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago At the beginning of this chat, I was thinking that Realistic Fantasy is most popular at this time, but it may be peaking. #fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago @warrencbennett I don’t get the steampunk lifestyle at all. #fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago @GarrettOstrich @plotspider Well don’t stop doing that, but also don’t make it seem forced…if that makes sense.#fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I have a steampunk idea kicking around that I think is real good no matter the hotness of the genre. #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Well, they’re anyone’s alter ego. She’s just there to be desired. Who doesn’t want that?#fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago @Plotspider @warrencbennett I guess I just never thought about it that way. Kept trying to making something completely new #fantasychat
- about 50 minutes ago @marilynmuniz The major problem I have with Twilight was the line: “I may not be very smart, but at least I’m good looking.” #fantasychat
- about 50 minutes ago @Plotspider Very true. But the haters believe Bella is the author’s alter ego. #fantasychat
- about 50 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I could be wrong as well. I’ve not looked in to it. However Meyer is a fellow Arizona writer :D Lovethatshemadeit #fantasychat
- about 52 minutes ago @warrencbennett From what I understand, she did. I don’t remember where I read it. But I may have gotten my facts wrong. #fantasychat
- about 52 minutes ago @Plotspider @marilynmuniz I loved Scott Westerfield’s first steampunk book, though it was more dieselpunk.#fantasychat
- about 52 minutes ago @GarrettOstrich I figure if I haven’t delved in to a subject, it hasn’t been done by me yet. Therefore it’ll be original#noego #fantasychat
- about 52 minutes ago @GarrettOstrich You get over it and do what you want to do. It’s not possible to be completely original.#fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago @GarrettOstrich It’s all about the spin you put on it. #fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I like the aesthetic of steampunk, but I don’t know that I enjoy reading it. I think its more inter. to look at. #fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago Steampunk is a subgenre, not a lifestyle. Steampunk as a lifestyle will die as a fad, but the genre will live on.#fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago @warrencbennett Positioned myself that if YA doesn’t work, we go traditional fantasy. #fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago @john_zeleznik @warrencbennett But how do you keep your work original when something seems similar?#fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago …girl readers can insert themselves and live the fantasy. It could have been anything, really, in that spot.#fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @marilynmuniz It just happened to involve monsters that represented bad or wild males. Bella herself is a blank into which… #fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @Plotspider I agree but I think they’ll still be a market for them. #fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I know so many people who love steampunk. My book club is reading a collection of short stories of the genre. #fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @john_zeleznik That could work for you or against you. Hopeful it is the former and not the later. #fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Talking about Meyer? This was a case of someone forcing the trend there. #fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @marilynmuniz @warrencbennett I don’t write for market. I write what I write. #fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I think Steampunk is about to run out of steam (intended), though I don’t know for certain.#fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago @warrencbennett Couple of big sales lately “sound” a lot like my book. #fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago @Plotspider Her agent somehow knew.#fantasychat
- about 56 minutes ago Steampunk has been very hot lately.#fantasychat
- about 56 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Why is that? #fantasychat
- about 56 minutes ago @warrencbennett I’m not writing for the market, but I still like to have an idea what it out there.#fantasychat
- about 56 minutes ago @Plotspider I guess. It honestly doesn’t interest me really. #fantasychat
- about 56 minutes ago I’m going to guess that we are headed for retellings of stories that have already happened. Snow White, etc.#fantasychat
- about 56 minutes ago There seems to be an interest in Game of Thrones-like stories #fantasychat
- about 57 minutes ago @warrencbennett I am with you. I do what interests me, not the latest fad, but it is an interesting thing to ask and answer. #fantasychat
- about 57 minutes ago @Plotspider Funny thing is that I might be hitting the market at the right time. #fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago I think we’ve shot our wad on Twilight. But I think that’s the question, though. Can we see it coming?#fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago @Plotspider I agree. But I think the first are more popular. I think we need to see more Zombie books instead of movies #fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago @Plotspider I’m hoping vampires and werewolves are done until the next reincarnation of them.#fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago I don’t think we can figure out what the next hot trend is. *shrugs* Who would’ve know that Twlight would catch on? #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago I think we’ve seen a surge in Wizardry/Witchcraft come and go. Now, we seem to be in a Realistic Fantasy Alternate World thing #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago Trends? Fairy tale retellings. #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago @john_zeleznik *waves* #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago @GarrettOstrich Hi! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @GarrettOstrich Welcome to #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Well, I think it would be good to go ahead and say what the most recent trends have been. Vampires/Werewolf, Zombies, etc. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @GarrettOstrich Greetings Garrett. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Howdy. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider Yup. I’m behind on the market, since I’ve been focusing on my own work. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Hey guys! I’m Garrett, aspiring author.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @warrencbennett @plotspider Lol! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @warrencbennett *waves* #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider You are also a spider that plots. Don’t forge that. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Hmmm, next hot trend, eh? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Howdy! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider *waves* Hello! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I am Jared Gullage, published author. I am here. I am almost done teaching for this year. Yay! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Tonight’s topic is What is the Next Hot trend in Fantasy? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Hi, I”m Warren. I write therefore I am.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Hello! Estoy aqui. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Please visit the @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Welcome everyone to @fantasy_chat! Feel free to introduce yourself at any time. Save all promotion until the end of the chat. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Moo #sixminutestil #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Welcome everyone to @fantasy_chat! Feel free to introduce yourself at any time. Save all promotion until the end of the chat. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Moo #sixminutestil #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Less than half an hour before we begin!#fantasychat
Posted on May 6, 2012
#fantasychat 04.29.12 Transcript
- less than a minute ago #fantasychat The first book is my main female protagonist finding out the truth about her her birth mother really is.
- about 1 minute ago Visit my blog http://t.co/uGU1VFbt and the group blog I’m apart at http://t.co/ax5CnFdv #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Thanks again for coming, feel free to promo and see you all next week! #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Remember to visit @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Next week, our topic will be What is the Next Hot Trend in Fantasy? #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago I just finished a great, quick read: Throne of the Crescent Moon. Fantastic. #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Yeah I can understand that…#fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago My favorite recent thick book with many supplots is The way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson. His best book imho. #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago Thank you everyone for attending tonight’s chat! #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago @Plotspider I’ve been slogging through the 4th book for like a year while reading other books. #fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago @warrencbennett Personally I wish they were released as two books for each book. Main plot book and Optional Book. #fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago It took Rand 120 pages to leave the Stone.#fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Finish, finish, finish.#fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I still have not read past the second book because of it. #fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago #fantasychat My current plan is to finish my first story! ;)
- about 4 minutes ago There’s a lot of Wheel of Time that’s bloated.#fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @warrencbennett Second!!!!!!!!!!!!!#fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @john_zeleznik My current plan is to query for books/screenplays while putting short fiction out on various ebook platforms. #fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @warrencbennett That’s what you call “Bloated.” Problem is, people kind of expect that in fantasy nowadays. Total immersion #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 yes… Bad timing indeed.@John_zeleznik #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @john_zeleznik It depends on how I handle the breaking moment for my MC and how long it takes for her to evolve from it. #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @warrencbennett I sent out an initial set in 08. Got an agent as part of a contest. Agent switched jobs.#fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago I always thought books 7 through 10 of A Wheel of Time could’ve been condensed to one or two books, easily.#fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @warrencbennett @john_zeleznik #fantasychat Ouch! Bad timing! :(
- about 7 minutes ago I might do a couple of Choose your Own Adventures in the same world, too. #fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago Drinna will have a sequel, but probably only one or two at best. I haven’t touched the project in a while.#fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago I need to catch up with Game of Thrones. Both the books and the TV show. #fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Seasons is 3. My “Young Weaponmaster” series is open ended, though I’ll pitch it at 3.#fantasychat
- about 9 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Last time I Sent query letters out was in 97. To a bunch of movie agents *right* before the writer’s strike. #fantasychat
- about 10 minutes ago Don’t do any spoilers. #fantasychat
- about 10 minutes ago @warrencbennett Ha ha! ;) #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago I’m pretty sure my series will be between 3 to 5 books. #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I like the Dany plot, but only because it took me by surprise. It does seem a little extraneous at times. #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @warrencbennett I got my agent on an almost Hail Mary query. #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I’m having trouble with Dany’s story in Dragons. I find it irritating. #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 I can just imagine you holding up a triangle and hitting it with something, heh.#fantasychat
- about 12 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I need to get my butt in gear and start sending out queries and such. For both books and screenplays. #fantasychat
- about 12 minutes ago @warrencbennett Fourth book was “meh” but I LOVED Dragons. The filling in the backstory was so insightful. #fantasychat
- about 13 minutes ago #fantasychat My triangle will be resolved in the first book but I’m leaving enough room.
- about 13 minutes ago @Plotspider I actually am not a fan of Dany plot, though I like some of the politics is kind of neat. #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago @john_zeleznik It didn’t mine. But I am also..the fourth book was hard for me to get in to and the fifth one is as well. #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago @john_zeleznik It is quite awesome, but does have a great deal of subplots and some of them aren’t as interesting as others #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago @warrencbennett Trilogies are easier to sell. Made me streamline a lot of junk from the outline. #fantasychat
- about 15 minutes ago And I will say that I am an unapologetic Ice and Fire fan. Game of Thrones changed my life. #fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago @Plotspider I’m actually working on 250-300 word proposals to send to the agent when I finish the rewrite tonight. #fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago I need an agent. I gots lots of stuff to sell, just no talent in selling it. #fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago The adventure series is open ended in my mind. #fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Nice! Agents do make good decisions sometimes, heh. #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago My series is called “Season of Destiny” and I wanted 4 books. But agent talked me into 3. It makes sense.#fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago That kind of thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I can’t even watch the first eps without saying…”What could have been” #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @Plotspider Oh that right, they did!#fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago #fantasychat a character, they just killed them off.
- about 21 minutes ago @warrencbennett My series can keep going as long as it needs to, but I don’t want anymore than 5 books.#fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @warrencbennett I can’t stand to let it go that way. By the time it’s over, it’s jumped the shark and is gone stupid. #fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago Because I wanted to write a straight adventure story. #fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago Firefly - is it better to have 13 great episodes and one great movie, or see it go on forever and die slowly? Hmm.#fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago @marilynmuniz They called it Japanimation weekend, remember? #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @warrencbennett AMEN! #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @warrencbennett @Plotspider I remember those days. #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago I don’t mind going back in to the same world and writing a new series, but I’m tired of huge series of 7 to 12 books or so. #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago #fantasychat *cough* As far as shows are concerned.
- about 23 minutes ago @warrencbennett I think I agree so far.#fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 I like it better to have the story end in a good place and then come at it from another angle.#fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago I’ve come to the conclusion I do not want any series of mine to be over three books long. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Occasionally I did as well. But it was movies on the newborn sci-fi channel I when I watched.#fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @marilynmuniz @Plotspider When I was a kid, people called it “Japanamation.” #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago I like subplots, but just not forever and ever kind. Even SoIaF gets tired at times when you’re stuck with unliked charactrs #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @Plotspider @warrencbennett Yes! When you run out of stories to tell, just stop & let your cast & fans move on! #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @Plotspider I do like that idea. As I grow older i Like it more and more. #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @warrencbennett @Plotspider I was watching anime even, when I didn’t know it was anime.#fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @warrencbennett I actually like a lot of books to end quickly. I don’t like series that go on forever and ever. Like subplots #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago The book I wrote last summer was a simpler book than the ones I got an agent with. #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago @warrencbennett I just liked the idea that shows didn’t have to go on and on until people didn’t like them anymore, but ended. #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago I like thick books with many subplots, etc. But I think there should be a good mix of straighfoward books and thicksubplotty 1s #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago Never was a fan of anime, but I can tell you that Star Blazers still has a place in my heart. #fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago @Plotspider I love anime. Been watching it my whole life. I loved Anime before it was cool, heh. #fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago I am not, by the way, an anime fan. But I like a beginning, middle, and end to shows and stories. #fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago @warrencbennett @john_zeleznikTransformers for me, but I only remember Optimus voice.#fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago I was never a gamer, video or RPG, though I collected the books but never actually played them. #fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago It wasn’t until I was in college and was introduced to several anime stories, where I learned to have archs.#fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago …sub characters and sub plots. #fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago @john_zeleznik That’s a lot like me as well. I grew up playing fantasy games with friends and we’d make all manner of… #fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago @john_zeleznik yeah I figured that out, eventually XD #fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I can see that. GI Joe was awesome, though I was more a Transformers guy. #fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago @warrencbennett It was a multi-tweet explanation. #fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago Wiki D Pad http://t.co/wyJQVc3u #fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago Add that to a love of GI Joe and my obvious love of big, sprawling casts and numerous subplots was born.#fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @john_zeleznik wikidpad doesn’t save online, it’s one you download to your PC. But it acts just like wiki software.#fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @warrencbennett Yeah!! #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago #fantasychat I use apps. I really like Pages. A Novel Idea has helped me outline.
- about 32 minutes ago @warrencbennett Subplots man. Subplots.#fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @warrencbennett I’ve never liked multipov books. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I’m not sure what you mean?#fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago And my mom watched Dallas and Dynasty, of which I became a fan. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @warrencbennett Ah. #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago @warrencbennett I understand that. But growing up, I used to get to stay up late as long as I watched what my mom watched. #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago @warrencbennett how does that work? Does it save it online or something and allow others to edit? #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago But that is for outlining, not for writing. I use MS word/OpenOffice/whateverIcan for that. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @warrencbennett Haven’t got that far, but I totally understand. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @Plotspider After I move, I’m going to be releasing a ton of stories on the ebook market. *crosses fingers*#fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @Plotspider Right and I’m finding in the 5th book, it kind of is tiring me out. You know? #fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @Plotspider 45 day trial. #fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I have the attention span of a gnat. I love MS Word. I’m curmedgeon-y like that. #fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @warrencbennett Or become the main plot. Song of Ice and Fire is an excellent example. It’s just a bunch of subplots woven. #fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @john_zeleznik One issue I’m having is very personal - I’m kind of getting tired of huge, multipov books.#fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @Plotspider Agreed. I think they can ahppen as planned and on accident. #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @Plotspider It isn’t free. But during NaNo, I was able to use it for 45 days and received a discount to buy it.#fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago My first novel didn’t have too many subplots, but that was Young Adult. #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @Plotspider They can, but they can also over take the main story. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago Not a lot of subplots in that. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @warrencbennett I think subplots flesh out the world and the characters. Not all characters are gonna have the same goals. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @warrencbennett I have the same thought. The book I wrote last summer had one plot from 2 different POVs.#fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Haven’t seen WriteWay. Is it free as well? #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago The question for me is this: If you have a good main plot, do you really need subplots? #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago yWriter is totally free and has the ability to make a link to characters, plot elements, and notes. #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago The problem I’ve had with Scrivener is that the free version runs out. I’m a writer and a teacher, so don’t want to buy. #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I use WriteWay. I found Scrivener distracting for the most part. #fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago yWriter5 is awesome for that. You can take notes about a character and his or her goals and such as that. Even pictures. #fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago Subplots. Hmmm. I try to put in extra subplots when I’ve got the main plot down. #fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago #fantasychat @warrencbennett Awesome! Thanks! :)
- about 42 minutes ago I’ve heard that Scrivener has a tool to track subplots. #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago @Plotspider actually it started out as subplots XD #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago @Plotspider Sub-plots is the topic but somehow we are talking about drafts. #fantasychat
- about 43 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Yeah, I’m making my way through Trigun at the moment. Heard of it, never sat down and watched it before. #fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago I assume we’re discussing drafting or something like? #fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago @warrencbennett Thanks! #fantasychat
- about 45 minutes ago @Plotspider *kicks the trouble markers to the side* *waves* #fantasychat
- about 45 minutes ago How to Write a Treatment:http://t.co/JFPFq17z A lbit more rigid than I do, but here is a good article on it. #fantasychat
- about 45 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 I actually started doing this for the backlstory “prequel” of the series I’m working on.#fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago @Plotspider I HEAR YOU! #fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago Finally. I was having some trouble. Hello there. #fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago Am I getting through now? I’ve been having troubles. #fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Welcome back!#fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago #fantasychat @warrencbennett I’d love to see a sample… ;)
- about 47 minutes ago @john_zeleznik yeah I picked it up when I started writing screenplays. I find it suits me. #fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 I use it for books/shortfiction/comics too because it helps flesh out the ‘story’ while showing off writing #fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago @warrencbennett I’ve had some success writing treatment style outlines. #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago @warrencbennett Treatment? #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 It’s a style of outlining a movie that using prose and dialog to show what the movie will be like. #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago I actually think that this “third” draft of my present book is some of the best writing I’ve done. #fantasychat
- about 50 minutes ago I’m back. #fantasychat
- about 50 minutes ago @warrencbennett @marilynmunizTreatment style? #fantasychat
- about 51 minutes ago @warrencbennett Best creative moments are done during the first draft. (Cool avatar!!! Love and Peace!!!)#fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @marilynmuniz My strong creative moments are done during the outlining though. I tend to use a ‘treatment’ style outline. #fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I change more from first to second. I like having an outline to the first one. I like having a road map. #fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago @warrencbennett During the first draft, I just write whatever. Then when I start the second draft, planning must be done. #fantasychat
- about 56 minutes ago I guess I am morphing in to an architect type writer and not a ‘Gardner’. #fantasychat
- about 57 minutes ago you know - I’m written many more screenplays than novels. I know in a Screenplay I like everything planned. #fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago Be right back, gotta walk the dog.#fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I understand that. Most of my subplots come from left field. #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago In my Scifi novel, I have the subplots planned out. However it has morphed a little from my outline. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I tell my story from different POVs, so I suppose they are all subplots. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KarenBridget777 Go get one! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @marilynmuniz I never think that I plan my subplots. Or at least I never think of them of subplots. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KarenBridget777 *waves* Lol! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat Uh oh! I’m lacking beverage as well!
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik How so? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @warrencbennett *waves* #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Interesting topic. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Back! Tea in hand. Iced, Orange Pekoe. Sweet.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik *waves* #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Please visit the @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc Tonight’s topic is Sub-plots. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat Hi! :)
- about 1 hour ago Welcome everyone to @fantasy_chat! Feel free to introduce yourself at any time. Save all promotion until the end of the chat. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Hey everyone. Taking a break from this rewrite to hang out. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @warrencbennett Lol! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I’m here! Wait, I need tea. Ignore me for a moment. *go grabs some tea* #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Less than 10 minutes before we begin.#fantasychat
Posted on April 29, 2012
#fantasychat 04.22.12 Transcript
- about 1 minute ago I gots to go, though. Thanks everybody.#fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Don’t make it a flashback. You can still get her to describe the people she’s being kicked out with. #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago #fantasychat http://t.co/LNIjNHxu :) It’s new, only three entries right now.
- about 2 minutes ago Oh, my poetry is also out on http://t.co/ASt4W6Nc. I have around 5 out there. Not fantasy, but I like it. #fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago It’s out on Smashwords, Amazon, and etc. Drinna, my first published novel, is out on ETreasures and Amazon, as well. #fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago @Plotspider I tried it that way and hated it.#fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago #fantasychat I have such a powerful opening (male protag wakes NAKED on the lakeshore in the middle of WINTER) Poor guy!
- about 4 minutes ago Okay all. Read my blog!http://t.co/u6tubN6M. Leave comments. I love comments.#fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago @Plotspider I agree with you, but they are far in between. #fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago The Dust Finders is still out there. It’s getting sales, and people are giving me good reviews. Come see why.#fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago Visit my blog http://t.co/uGU1VFbt and the group blog I’m apart at http://t.co/ax5CnFdv #fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago @marilynmuniz You could always have a variation of the line: “And now I’m in the middle of nowhere with these…description #fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago Thanks again for coming, feel free to promo and see you all next week! #fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago Remember to visit @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago Next week, our topic will be Sub-plots.#fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @warrencbennett ……the horror.#fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago Thank you everyone for attending tonight’s chat! #fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I have to admit, flashbacks are very hard for me. I prefer linear. But the successful flashback is vry powerful #fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @Plotspider She is kicked out for sure.#fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Trying to remember…it was a book or a movie I’ve read that has a flashback in a flashback in a flashback #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @Plotspider I hate flashbacks. Originally I thought about adding a comment picking on the fact she was kicked out. #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago I like to beat them with swords. Or Plowshears. #fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago @Plotspider Maybe she wasn’t actually banished, but that was the way it felt to her? #fantasychat
- about 9 minutes ago @Plotspider She could start in a flashback to that moment, where her own village declared they didn’t want her around anymore. #fantasychat
- about 9 minutes ago @marilynmuniz What about starting at them saying “You are banished!” Or a flashback to that place.#fantasychat
- about 10 minutes ago #fantasychat @marilynmuniz Good idea! :D
- about 10 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I think…yeah, I’d start there. Start at the trial where she gets booted. Maybe have not trust her advocate #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Beat them with a stick.#fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago …of at the build up. #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I like to think of a scene like a tiny story, but the opening scene might should start at the climax instead… #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @Plotspider She is booted from her own village and forced to go with the group. So maybe I need to start from that point. Hmm. #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago #fantasychat My antagonists don’t just make my characters lives difficult, they complicate MINE too!
- about 12 minutes ago @DavidalBarron But I understand what you’re saying. #fantasychat
- about 12 minutes ago @DavidalBarron But, but, Orwell liked to use language deceptively, to confuse people, and make them have no idea what went on. #fantasychat
- about 13 minutes ago @plotspider Clear, that is: translating the images that pop up into the writer’s head into the reader’s head.#fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago @marilynmuniz What is the biggest action that takes place? #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago #fantasychat My villain isn’t just making things complicated for my characters, he & his boss give me a hard time too! :(
- about 14 minutes ago My book didn’t start getting attention until I followed my own advice. #fantasychat
- about 15 minutes ago @Plotspider My MC in a new city with the group she is guiding to the forest. Basically en media res.#fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago #fantasychat I’m going to need to separate the male protag from one of the female protag’s so he is forced to get closer to the 2nd.
- about 16 minutes ago @DavidalBarron You mean that language shapes the way people think? #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago Film: Star Wars (except for the opening crawl) #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago @plotspider I follow the Orwellian “Politics and the English Language” guidelines, even in fiction. Saves time editing, later. #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago Game of Thrones is the uber example.#fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Well, tell me about the story anyway #fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago Think about the greats, they drop us right into the middle of the action. #fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago @Plotspider Sometimes, but he says he breaks his own rules on occasion in On Writing. Not always on purpose. #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago In an uncompleted fantasy novel, I start right as a young couple is about to be assassinated. #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @Plotspider That’s what I’m trying to do. I decided to come back when I have my ending in place. #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago I find that words like “stuff” and “thing” and “place” and “car” are off limits. Say exactly WHICH type of thing, etc. #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @warrencbennett Maybe he does, or maybe he just knows the right words. #fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago #fantasychat I know what you mean. When you start in the middle like that, what do you do with your inciting incident?
- about 21 minutes ago Drop us into the middle of something and go from there. #fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago @Plotspider Mr. King sometimes breaks his own rules, heh. #fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Start as close to the ending as possible, then go backwards is what I’ve heard. #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @Plotspider Lol, it has. I would stay tonight but my eyes are closing as I type. I’ll try to come back soon.#fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Can you tell me more. Maybe I can help? #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago You know, Steven King says to use simpler words with more power. He says if you don’t abs. know the word, then don’t use it. #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @aboutpaula *waves* Good night!#fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago I had to look up en medias res. I Know the idea, just not the phrase. #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @Plotspider I don’t know at what point I should start the story. I’ve gone through 3 or 4 different opening already. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I love to start things en medias res. I like to have the reader ask: “What’s going on and have to really look.” #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @aboutpaula HELLO! GOODNIGHT!#fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @aboutpaula It has been too long. Come back. Come back. #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago Saying a quick hello and goodnight to#fantasychat, it’s been ages.
- about 25 minutes ago @marilynmuniz En media res. I hammer students when we do personal narratives. #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I usually race through the first line and keep moving. I try not to stop and think about it too much Then rev. #fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago @Plotspider I having that problem right now.#fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago *Nods* RT @warrencbennett: I think the biggest word choice struggle Ive had is the dreaded first line.#fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I watched the NOtebook movie too, Spent most of the movie wanting to tell the guy to find a less shallow gal #fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago It’s fun though to have different characters with different levels of diction. Some of the hardest things to pull off though. #fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago Sometimes, I find it hard to maintain steady word choice when I’ve left a piece and come back again.#fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I don’t know much about him, to be honest. Read one of his books. That is about it.#fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago I think the biggest word choice struggle I’ve had is the dreaded first line. #fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago @warrencbennett I don’t either. I begrudge his arrogant, smug attitude about writing and that success.#fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago Word choice depends on who is narrating and it has a lot to do with the tone and mood of the piece, Probably been said. #fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago Word choice, to me, is most important for consistency in my world. People names, way people speak, etc.#fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I do not begrudge him for finding a successful niche and going for it, however. #fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Oh I didn’t take it as such. I’m not a fan either XD. Totally not what I like to read.#fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @Plotspider *waves* Word choice.#fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago Oh yeah. It’s word choice. I remember.#fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @warrencbennett Google gets me in trouble when I’m writing. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @Plotspider word choice, oh great spider of plots! #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @warrencbennett @marilynmuniz @john_zeleznik Good answer. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago Sorry late. Doing some yard work. Hard labor. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago DO that in a genre and you get hammered. Anyway, back to word choice. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago Hello? What’s the topic tonight? How’re things? #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago You basically repeat the same themes, plots and characters from book to book and make millions. #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago @warrencbennett I’m glad. I didn’t mean it as a shot at your writing. I’m not a Sparks fan. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @marilynmuniz @john_zeleznik I wasn’t insulted - he is a writer that makes his living off of writing. That is what I want #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I haven’t either. I did check out the Notebook by Sparks after that, however. I was curious.#fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Well I read the Notebook, it wasn’t bad, writing wise. Still not a fan of the characters.#fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @john_zeleznik @warrencbennett Ouch.#fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @warrencbennett I haven’t read her Earthsea series at all, so I was surprised at her words. #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I use plain ol’ Google search for word searches, believe or not. Just type in what I need.#fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @warrencbennett If someone told me I reminded them of NIcholas Sparks I would know what the tip of a gun would taste like. #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @warrencbennett It’s perfect for me from I can see. I don’t recall words very well. #fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I was told by someone I reminded them of Nicolas Sparks. Which is odd, I didn’t even know who he was at the time #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @warrencbennett I haven’t read her Earthsea series at all, so I was surprised at her words. #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I use plain ol’ Google search for word searches, believe or not. Just type in what I need.#fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @warrencbennett If someone told me I reminded them of NIcholas Sparks I would know what the tip of a gun would taste like. #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @warrencbennett It’s perfect for me from I can see. I don’t recall words very well. #fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I was told by someone I reminded them of Nicolas Sparks. Which is odd, I didn’t even know who he was at the time #fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago One of my instructor from a writing workshop said my writing reminded of Ursula LeGuin’s Earthsea series. #fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I know I sometimes get in to a ‘Tarintino” dialogue mode. Circa reservoir Dogs/Pulp Fiction#fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Clerks may be one of the most important movies in my life. Even more than Star Wars.#fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I dunno. I don’t think I’d ever use that. I’d just pull up a thesaurus first. #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago @warrencbennett I would hope people would say that about me, but it’s pretty obvious, I think, they are my influences. #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago #fantasychat Aaron Sorkin is an influence for me as well. And the writers for #WhiteCollar. :)
- about 43 minutes ago @john_zeleznik No idea what my dialogue is like. Warren C. Bennett I hope XD #fantasychat
- about 45 minutes ago My dialogue is reminiscent of Kevin Smith or Aaron Sorkin. #fantasychat
- about 45 minutes ago I don’t spend time on the name if I don’t have one already. I insert a name and keep going. That I can think about later. #fantasychat
- about 45 minutes ago #fantasychat Yup! Or you can put in related words.
- about 46 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I pepper in lots of explosions. And fights. I love fights. #fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 you put in the definition and it gives you a word? #fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago And I pepper in quotes from Kevin Smith movies, especially Clerks. #fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago Smirk and grin. #fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago #fantasychat In the #storycraft chat earlier someone mentioned a “reverse dictionary” app available for both iPhone & Droid. :)
- about 48 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I think every author has a word like that. Unfortunately I can’t think of what I use often. I bet I have one #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago I sometimes put a LATER in for a place or family name to make sure I get it right. #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Word up #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago #fantasychat It just keeps me going. It’s like the old test taking strategy: skip it & come back later. ;)
- about 50 minutes ago Is there a word or words you always use in your writing? #fantasychat
- about 50 minutes ago I’m painstaking with words. #fantasychat
- about 50 minutes ago @john_zeleznik *waves* #fantasychat
- about 51 minutes ago Hail-lo! #fantasychat
- about 51 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 @warrencbennett Never thought of doing that before. I’m afraid to forget what I wanted to say. #fantasychat
- about 51 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 sounds like a good idea.#fantasychat
- about 52 minutes ago When I really get in to writing, I tend not to think about word choice very much. But oftentimes it takes a while to get there #fantasychat
- about 52 minutes ago #fantasychat It’s seven now in he Midwest. People may be finishing dinner.
- about 53 minutes ago @warrencbennett @marilynmuniz I’ve made a _____ where I don’t know what to say & replaced the line with a word later. ;) #fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago @warrencbennett Still an hour long chat. Half an hour doesn’t give us a lot of time to discuss the topic.#fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I use a thesaurus when I need to use one. Not sure how often that is… #fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @marilynmuniz sometimes I think people are just fashionably late no matter what the time. #fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago #fantasychat Word choice is a great topic! I was just trying to decide if a child in my story should be three or five yrs old. Decided on 5
- about 55 minutes ago @marilynmuniz would you keep it an hour long or just a half hour? #fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago How often should a thesaurus be used?#fantasychat
- about 57 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 *waves* #fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Yo, what is up.#fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago Been thinking of pushing back the chat an half hour because of how quiet the chat is during the 15 minutes or so. #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I think it is best to just insert something and go on. #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Being blocked by a word choice can artificially stop you from writing. That isn’t a good thing#fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago RT @warrencbennett: Hey all, there is#fantasychat going on right now. Topic is word choice. Come join us #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago #fantasychat Hi! Just had to update a Meet Up thing.
- about 1 hour ago @warrencbennett *waves* #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @warrencbennett I learned to wait until the revision but sometimes it’s hard to do. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Hey all, there is #fantasychat going on right now. Topic is word choice. Come join us
- about 1 hour ago On occasion I’ll be stuck with word choice, but generally I do not worry about it until I edit and revise #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Hlola. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Choosing the right word is hard for me. I can spend hours taking to find the one that fits. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Tonight’s topic is Word Choice. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Please visit the @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Welcome everyone to @fantasy_chat! Feel free to introduce yourself at any time. Save all promotion until the end of the chat. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Less than 15 minutes before we begin!#fantasychat
Posted on April 22, 2012
#fantasychat 03.18.12 Transcript
- less than a minute ago I’ve gotten around six or seven reviews for each of my works, and they are all rather good. Come give me more! All I ask. #fantasychat
- less than a minute ago @Plotspider well more like ‘bad and good without a mix” Kind of like Ying without Yang and vice versa#fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago @warrencbennett So, heaven and hell without earth? #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago My novella the Dust Finders can be found just about everywhere. The Afterknight is on Amazon. Drinna is on eTreasures and Am. #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago @Plotspider right. Or stop your search, only the bad things in life exist, heh. #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago Visit my blog http://t.co/uGU1VFbt and the group blog I’m apart at http://t.co/ax5CnFdv #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago Thanks again for coming, feel free to promo and see you all next week! #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago @warrencbennett Interesting. A creature snuggling close in bed saying: “There’s no such things as unicorns.” Lol #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago Remember to visit @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago Next week’s topic: Economics (Again)#fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago Thank you everyone for attending tonight’s chat! #fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago @Plotspider Motivate a person. Even if it isn’t real. #fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago @Plotspider well it depends on which side you are on. If you live with boogy men, believing a unicorn might exist could… #fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago I need something the children can rest on, and sleep soundly knowing doesn’t exist in my world. #fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago @warrencbennett But see, I’m looking for that stuff that only matters in as much as it motivates characters, not that’s True. #fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago I was thinking about “Beware the boogeyman,” and in my world the children would say: “yeah, there might be one.” I don’t want #fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago @Plotspider and of course no one will know the truth about certain things until they meet them. It may be better or worse… #fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @Plotspider well I’ve written some stuff from both sides, no middle. #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @warrencbennett But where do you find what is believed about those creatures to be completely false on both sides. #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @warrencbennett I assume the story takes place somewhere in the middle? #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @Plotspider I founding it difficult as well. In fantasy, you are made to believe the monsters are real. #fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago @Plotspider In the dark half of the world, Unicorns and fairies, and ‘good’ creatures are what is myth…#fantasychat
- about 9 minutes ago Well, for me, I found it is difficult to answer that question, cause there are many monsters and much magic.#fantasychat
- about 10 minutes ago @Plotspider Wow! You have me thinking in different light tonight. #fantasychat
- about 10 minutes ago @Plotspider Well in my ‘dual world’ the monsters are not real on the light side. They are just myths and legends #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago I was thinking about my own world, asking: “What could someone say that would make a character go: ‘That’s ridiculous.’” #fantasychat
- about 12 minutes ago I don’t see stories about monsters in a fantasy world where the monsters are not real. #fantasychat
- about 12 minutes ago We also need to remember that ‘modern’ stories have their share of folklore as well. Urban Legends, for example. #fantasychat
- about 12 minutes ago Too often, I see people who try to Red Herring a ghost story, make it seem like no one believes it, and it’s actually true. #fantasychat
- about 12 minutes ago Do your stories include ghost stories that are purely fiction? Even for the people living in a fictional world?#fantasychat
- about 13 minutes ago I think it is these sorts of details that separate an amateur storyteller from a professional, and I admit, i have lots of work #fantasychat
- about 13 minutes ago Another good series with much folklore - the Dark Tower series by Stephen King. #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago @Plotspider Some of it is history, but some of it comes from folklore and stories. #fantasychat
- about 15 minutes ago @warrencbennett touché #fantasychat
- about 15 minutes ago @Plotspider or someone deliberately changes the story and it gets passed down by generations…hmm.#fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago @john_zeleznik But, doesn’t that make it history, not folklore? #fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago @Plotspider I’ve never thought of it before What do my characters do for good luck? It’s a nice character question. #fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago @Plotspider Yes, there are several misread legends and once one character starts understanding them, they make sense. #fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago @warrencbennett So the story is exactly right, but they think it is not? #fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago I am amazed by how much that kind of thinking still affects me today, even when I say I don’t believe in it.#fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago I like the idea of people thinking something is a twisting of reality and it really isn’t. #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago Good and bad luck are two things I am particularly interested in here and now. What do your characters do to guide luck? #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago @john_zeleznik In your world? #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago But people are motivated by many stupid things, not the least of which are what they perceive to be truth,even thoughit’s false #fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago One of the big things is that one myth has been completely mistranslated . #fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @Plotspider Maybe it isn’t mistranslated :)#fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago @warrencbennett some of it can be truth, but if it all is, then it is merely mistranslated history. #fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago @warrencbennett What is fact, what is exaggerated and what does it mean for the character. #fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago @Plotspider There may be one in the book I’m writing, just I’m not writing it that way. A simple change and it’s there. So yeah #fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago @warrencbennett I’ve tried to blur the lines and that is part of the character’s conflict. #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago I guess in my fantasy world - Folklore is taken as truth. I’ve not considered that before. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago My novel Drinna (no promo) has a scene where a character refuses to eat a particular type of animal because of her beliefs only #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago One subplot has one of the characters studying myth and legend to find out how it can help. #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Sometimes, those superstitions can affect the plot of a story and character motivation. Do they for you? #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago Folklore, myths and legends are part of the backbone of my series. #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @Plotspider I liked it as a younger man, but I haven’t read it in awhile. #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago My thanks to Marilyn for agreeing.#fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @john_zeleznik *waves* Welcome!#fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @john_zeleznik word up. Folklore#fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago We’re talking how we use folklore (or if) in our worlds/universes. #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago I’m working on the main plot with the subplots for the moment. My plan is to go back and layer history, tales, etc. #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago @warrencbennett I’ve often wondered about that series. #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago Sorry, I’m late, what’s up all. #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago For one the main character is the 7th son of a 7th son… #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago Oh anther good series for folklore - the Alvin Maker series by Orson Scott Card. It is ‘early american folklore made real” #fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago I have holy books that tell about certain behaviors that are wrong and are translated into superstitions#fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago @warrencbennett The History Channel is my best friend for research. #fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago I usually translate things from ‘this world’ in to my own. I tend to love history so history is used as a back drop.#fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago @warrencbennett Well I haven’t either, but at least I can read them and know the end is just around the corner.#fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I have not read that series past the second book. I plan to do so eventually. #fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I have yet to read any of the Brandon Sanderson written WOT tomes. I do have the first one though… #fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @warrencbennett He did a great job on that. PS…I can’t wait for the last book! #fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @warrencbennett I realized that it was something I was not doing too much of, dealing with customs, which’s why I brought it up #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @warrencbennett Yep, that and this Princess Academy book I’m reading, and GRRM’s SoIandF. Also in the Kingkiller Chron. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @Plotspider At least not yet. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @Plotspider I have it a little - but I honestly haven’t really thought of it until now. But it does add a bit of texture #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago One series that mixes folklore in to the tale well is The Wheel of Time. He did a good job in that aspect#fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago Or do you borrow from this world?#fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @Plotspider I have some monster tales but nothing like do this to ward off that. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @warrencbennett Exactly. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago Pinch of salt over the shoulder to ward of bad luck after spilling some. #fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago Folklore isn’t just myths and legends though, it talks about herb use, medical things. How to ward off ghosts/spirits/ etc #fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I”m talking some of that, the tales, and also the little quirky behaviors, like “See a mermaid, make a wish.” #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @Plotspider There we go. Not sure why I had a mind fart on that name. #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @marilynmuniz But isn’t that legend/religion? I’m talking completely made up stuff that permeates a culture. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @warrencbennett Rip Van Winkle#fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @Plotspider I have tales that aren’t the whole truth. Some people live by it and others don’t believe it.#fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @Plotspider Yeah - that one and the story of the guy that bowled with gnomes/dwarves and ended up sleeping 30 years? #fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago @warrencbennett The Devil and Tom Walker. I’m about to start teaching it, in fact. Lucky (or Lucy) timing, I guess. #fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago Well I created a world split in to dark/light halves. The folklore of one is the reality of the other. #fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago In your worlds, are there stories that are not True, but everyone knows, that sort of guide the thinking of the characters? #fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago Man I forgot the name of that story. Mind going blank. #fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago Here’s the thing: too often in fantasy, there’s no difference between folklore and reality. The superstitions are the truth. #fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago The Devil and Tom Bradly - or whoever. The guy that ended up sleeping through the revolution. #fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago @Plotspider *waves* That’s what I thought but I wasn’t sure. #fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago @warrencbennett I’m not sure I would call it folklore. But then again, they are tales from the past. #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago Sorry, typo. #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago @warrencbennett I think of that, and I think of stories like Faust. The archetypal stuff. #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago @Plotspider I think sometimes Ricky wanted stuff to be unLucy *da dump, ding* #fantasychat
- about 43 minutes ago What a society thinks is ‘lucky/unlucy’ for instance. The Greek myths of elves. #fantasychat
- about 43 minutes ago What a society thinks is ‘lucky/unlucy’ for instance. The Greek myths of elves. #fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago The stuff that conveys TRUTH in a place, without necessarily being part of the actual universe. #fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago @warrencbennett Yeah, me too.#fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago Here I am. Sorry. Folklore is the background mythology of a particular race or civilization. #fantasychat
- about 45 minutes ago @marilynmuniz so in your fantasy ‘world’ what would folklore be like? #fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago @Plotspider suggested the topic, so I’m not sure where he wanted to go with it. #fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago @marilynmuniz For some reason when I hear folklore, I always think of early America. The headless horseman era, etc. #fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago @warrencbennett Me too. But they all somehow tie in together when you talk about one of them.#fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago @warrencbennett I meant to say difference and not different. #fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago @marilynmuniz LIke the ghost stories of the Appalachian mountains. #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago Me either, heh. Folklore though, when I think ofit is more like tales/advice handed down through generations#fantasychat
- about 50 minutes ago @warrencbennett At the moment, I can’t think of the different. Lame answer, I know. #fantasychat
- about 51 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I will. I wn’t be back on until next week sometime though. Taking a break form online stuff for the most part #fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago @warrencbennett I needed up on that server because of a couple of friends. But if you ever come onto the server, let me know! #fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago @marilynmuniz What seperated myths from legends? And how does that translate in to folk lore? #fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @warrencbennett Fantasy wise, I think of legends first. #fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @warrencbennett I can understand that. Wish they didn’t change the time in Florida. #fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I’m on galkarond (?) I believe. And yah I got one of my old characters boosted to level 80 and a ton of gear #fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago @warrencbennett I’m on Korgath! I just started playing two weeks ago. I heard that uber scroll is awesome.#fantasychat
- about 56 minutes ago Well when you hear folklore, what do you think of? Myths and legends or what? #fantasychat
- about 57 minutes ago @warrencbennett Any of the above. Whatever comes to mind and then go from there. #fantasychat
- about 57 minutes ago @marilynmuniz what server are you on? I just got back in to it (Via a friend using that uber Scroll of Rez on me.) #fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Arizona doesn’t have DST, so I always forget about it. #fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago It’s been one of those weeks where I haven’t gotten much done except playing WoW. #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago so we are talking about folk lore? Lore of the Folk? Folkish type lored? #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago @warrencbennett Lol! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago word up all. Forgot about the time change, glad I looked at twitter heh. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Please visit the @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc Tonight’s topic is Folklore. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Welcome everyone to @fantasy_chat! Feel free to introduce yourself at any time. Save all promotion until the end of the chat. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Less than 15 minutes before we begin!#fantasychat
Posted on March 18, 2012
#fantasychat 03.04.12 Transcript
- less than a minute ago RT @john_zeleznik: When you add magic to the mix and you can have some fun. #fantasychat
- less than a minute ago Please visit my blog http://t.co/uGU1VFbtand the group blog I’m apart of http://t.co/ax5CnFdv #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Thanks again for coming, feel free to promo and see you all next week! #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Remember to visit @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago When you add magic to the mix and you can have some fun. #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Next week’s topic: Economics #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Thank you everyone for attending tonight’s chat! #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago #Fantasychat Good idea! Yeah, some have better lighting than others. :)
- about 2 minutes ago Space Jam was kind of a fantasy adaptation of Basketball. #fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago Lol! RT @john_zeleznik: And really, Harry Potter was a trust fund kid in the wizardling world. #fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Haven’t read that yet. Interesting. #Fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Bioluminescence? Or Biology compensating? #Fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago @Plotspider She did crreate a wizarding American football game in the Quidditch Through The Ages book.#fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago Gotta go, but an interesting chat. Apologies for not joining in. #fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago Good one! :) RT @john_zeleznik: And really, Harry Potter was a trust fund kid in the wizardling world.#fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago What could have been. What other wizard sports could there have been? #Fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago I know that JKR didn’t have room to make more sports, and it really would have been a distraction, but, just curious… #Fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @Plotspider She could have but I’m don’t think it would fit his character. Maybe if it was Neville instead…#fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago And really, Harry Potter was a trust fund kid in the wizardling world. #fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I’m not European, so I don’t know: Does soccer take a similar position in European schools?#Fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago #fantasychat I’m still trying to work out what prom would be like in my story world. Night time is tricky.
- about 6 minutes ago @Plotspider He was isolated UNTIL he became a wizard. #fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago JKR wanted Harry to be isolated, as has been said, and in a central position. #Fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago @Plotspider Absolutely. And it was important. It also established legacy, considering his father was so good.#fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Yeah, I’m just saying she could have. She could have had him reinvent a relatively lower position, not central. #Fantasychat
- about 9 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I think JKR was having a sport because most kids that age are interested in sports. HIgh School = Team Sports #Fantasychat
- about 9 minutes ago @Plotspider If she did that, the plot would have changed. #fantasychat
- about 9 minutes ago And that gave us the different view of the game. #fantasychat
- about 10 minutes ago @Plotspider Yeah, but that didn’t put him in danger. And JKR did that during the Quidditch World Cup.#fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago Sports have to take a ‘realistic’ position in the lives of characters, so the characters are relatable to real people?#Fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Yeah, but she could have had him be an admiring spectator, or in that kind of position and reinvent it, etc. #Fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Ouch! I do have characters who work in a high school. Sports are a BIG part of High School life. #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago And it exposed him to danger and isolated him. #fantasychat
- about 12 minutes ago Quidditch worked because Harry Potter’s position was the most active and central to the game. #fantasychat
- about 13 minutes ago I think the key for a fantasy sport is it’s relevance to the story/world/characters. Let everything else figure itself out. #fantasychat
- about 13 minutes ago @Plotspider Lol! I think your doing just great. Sometimes we need to talk it out. #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago @Plotspider Could be. It’s like any sport though. #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago I’m talking too much. Someone else, please.#Fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago I have one race who compete over mates in a sport hitting each other with sticks. Haven’t worked it out yet.#Fantasychat
- about 15 minutes ago @Plotspider In my Jaiman series, I have a book planned where they go to an Olympic style game.#fantasychat
- about 15 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I haven’t heard of that, but it sounds entertaining. #Fantasychat
- about 15 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Would that be a requisite for a successfully created fant. sport? having skills compensate for DNA? #Fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago Blood Bowl had orks taking on elves in football. Dwarves vs. Humans. #fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago Well, of course, you have some Olympians types who break expectations, which makes compelling story.#Fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago How can Mugsy Bouges at 5’3” be a successful basketball player? #fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 But that’s part of the game. How can a 190 lb guy take a hit from a 300 pounder?#fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago I have creatures who can use a rage to help them. Humans cannot duplicate this, so their participation would be limited, hope #Fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago #fantasychat And most of my Shifters have to be careful not to hurt each other.
- about 18 minutes ago Though it might be interesting to try for a character. A noob from another race, attempting to do what the originator does.. #Fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago I want to know more about my world before deciding what type of sport the people play. #fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Very true. After all, what one can possibly accomplish, another cannot possibly reproduce.#Fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Yes, but there’s challenges in that. You ever hear of Blood Bowl. #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago #fantasychat Sports can be tricky when you have diverse assortment of creatures.
- about 20 minutes ago @Plotspider Maybe the storytelling element would be included as well, where the person who tells the best story wins. #Fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago Tournaments are a key part of the plot of the first book and important enough to some characters in the second.#fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @john_zeleznik It’s not because people just need something to occupy their mind. Look at fantasy baseball.#Fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago Another: people compete at hunting for certain things in the wilderness. First back with most stuff wins.#Fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago One game: teams have to hold a ball and run to different places and tag the post for points. Sort of tag meets keepaway. #Fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago It’s important for me to establish why the sport is so important to the world/plot/character. #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Okay, so next question for me? Let’s explain some of our ideas, shall we? #Fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago Actually thought about a series of short stories feature them. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @Plotspider Both. That’s the fun of it. The tournament teams travel from tourney to tourney. I mention it but don’t show it. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @Plotspider I agree but I really cannot stomach it. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Neither can I, to be honest. Several movies have my stamp of disapproval for those scenes.#Fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @john_zeleznik What they go and challenge each other’s manors’ teams? #Fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @Plotspider I haven’t written a scene. But I can’t read or watch it on TV. #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago @Plotspider Baseball teams did it before there were organized leagues, that’s what they do in my world.#fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I consider animals to be characters, and so I do not harm them without having a very good reason, but… #Fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Have you ever written something like that, where it hurt you to write it? Not promote it, but to turn readers? #Fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago Like with planes and stuff? #Fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago @john_zeleznik What’s that? #Fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago @Plotspider Like barnstorming.#fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago #fantasychat I only have one pair of merfolk in the first story. A male and a female. Later stories will have a variety of Shifters.
- about 29 minutes ago @Plotspider I don’t write YA, but I’m staying away from animal cruelty scenes. I may mention it but I’m not writing any scenes #fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago @john_zeleznik What’s manorstorming? Sounds interesting. #Fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago In my agented book, I have organized melee teams that “manorstorm” and I have a tournament league too.#fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago And so I’m asking? How many of you are comfortable with such things? I get the impression many of us write for YA. #Fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago RT @john_zeleznik: I think its such a recent thing (organized sports) that you have to justify why the sport exists. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago I’ve actually been thinking of having hunting competitions and some forms of animal/race fighting. People did that in medieval #Fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @Plotspider I believe it comes down to how comfortable a writer is with the subject. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago I think it’s such a recent thing (organized sports) that you have to justify why the sport exists. #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I’m not either, but was just wondering which lines some of you were willing to go over. Even if to be against. #Fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago @Plotspider I’m not a fan of animal cruelty. But I may have human cruelty. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago In the background. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @Plotspider I have horse racing and the joust and there is that element. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago Or is that a taboo for writers these days? Actually, I don’t think there are such things as taboos for writers, based on exp. #Fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 @Plotspider Phineas and Ferb did an episode about 3-D soccer that was brilliant.#fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago Are any of you going to include ‘cruelty’ in some of your sports for the sake of shocking audiences. Cruel sports with animls #Fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago Which brings another idea…Harry Potter has a bit of Dragon Baiting in it, as well as the Quidditch…#Fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @john_zeleznik @plotspider Something like that. #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Of course, with merfolk, you have the advantage of three dimensions, equilibrium and physics, Archimedes science #Fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @Plotspider @KarenBridget777 But underwater. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Water polo? #Fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @marilynmuniz @plotspider Kind of like basketball at different places. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @marilynmuniz A very good read. Darnit. I’m jealous. #Fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @B_Pine Welcome! #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Couldn’t there be a merman soccer or something like that? #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago #fantasychat of sports…
- about 38 minutes ago @Plotspider I’m thinking completely different rules for each region. I haven’t read the Hunger Games yet. (It’s on my list) #fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 You could always have something on land, which challenges their ability to stay and act???#Fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago And maybe a keep away game. #Fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago @Plotspider Quidditch comes to mind.#fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago I think I’m going to have something akin to team sumo or something. #Fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago I’ll admit that I’m stumped on fantasy sports. As well as some deals of folk lore. I have a little, but need more.#Fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago @marilynmuniz That’s kind of like the Hunger Games, a little. Different regions looking at it from diff. perspectives? #Fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago I’m thinking about creating one sport but with different rules in each region. #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago Hello there. Sorry I’m late. #Fantasychat
- about 43 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Don’t worry about what happen last week. All is forgiven. #fantasychat
- about 43 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Stop being so hard on yourself. Do you have any sports in your writing? #fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago #fantasychat I was writing and then watching #OnceUponaTime & forgot. Plus I still feel guilty for being so NASTY last week..
- about 46 minutes ago If no one else joins us, then we’ll end early tonight. #fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago Maybe no one likes the topic… #fantasychat
- about 50 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Plus I subscribed to HBO, so I’m watching GoT as well. #fantasychat
- about 51 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I wanted to write today but I got myself involved with WoW. So writing is on hold until tomorrow. #fantasychat
- about 52 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I’m jammed up writing, so I need a break. #fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago Is there something big going on tonight?#fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago I have a tournament in my book that got an agent for with a modified version of the melee. #fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Awesome! I haven’t created a sport for my fantasy world yet. #fantasychat
- about 57 minutes ago Follows a lot of the same rules as 7-on-7 football. #fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago I created a football-like game in one of my stories. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Has anyone created their own sport for their novel? Or thinking of doing so? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Please visit the @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc Tonight’s topic is Fantasy Sports.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Welcome everyone to @fantasy_chat! Feel free to introduce yourself at any time. Save all promotion until the end of the chat. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik Great! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @marilynmuniz Did my daughter’s bath early so I could be here. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik You got here before I did.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Who’s got two thumbs and is early for#fantasychat….this guy.
Posted on March 4, 2012
#fantasychat 02.26.12 Transcript
- less than a minute ago @maidenhair_ Anytime! ^_^ #fantasychat
- less than a minute ago Thanks for the great chat!! #fantasychat
- less than a minute ago Please visit my blog http://t.co/uGU1VFbtand the group blog I’m apart of http://t.co/ax5CnFdv #fantasychat
- less than a minute ago Check out the reviews for The Tears of Elios on Goodreads, B&N, and AMZ. Then check it out for yourself. :-)#fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago @john_zeleznik Lol! I know we talked about that a few weeks back and thought why not again. #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago @marilynmuniz Thank you for a great chat! :)#fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago Thanks again for coming, feel free to promo and see you all next week! #fantasychat
- about 1 minute ago @marilynmuniz Ooh, lots to say about that.#fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago @crista_mchugh lol. I hear you. Some days are tougher than others, or so I imagine. ;) #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago Remember to visit @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago Thank you everyone for attending tonight’s chat! Next week’s topic:Fantasy Sports #fantasychat
- about 2 minutes ago @john_zeleznik When I’m not exhausted after 11h days and not having to chase a 2yo, I can write very efficiently.#fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago @maidenhair_ I write to keep myself sane and not go House all over my patients. :-P #fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago @crista_mchugh …as well as physical toll on people. It makes it tough to come home and write after a long day or night. #fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago @crista_mchugh I feel you there. It’s so hard to get the time to write efficiently. #fantasychat
- about 3 minutes ago @crista_mchugh I thought so but my memory’s wonky these days. I think, and I am biased, that medicine claims a heavy emotional. #fantasychat
- about 4 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Yep — I’m a doctor (which is why I’m praying for bedrest soon) #fantasychat
- about 5 minutes ago @crista_mchugh You work in medicine, too, right? #fantasychat
- about 6 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I’m just too exhausted to write when I get home, and I have trouble convincing the DH 2 watch DD on the weekends #fantasychat
- about 7 minutes ago @crista_mchugh I’m about 40% and I SUCKED writing over Winter break. #fantasychat
- about 8 minutes ago #fantasychat Thank you. I’ve lost friends in fandoms due to this kind of behavior. Why can’t I just put it on the damn PAGE?!
- about 9 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I know the feeling. I’m about 40% done with the book I need to turn in b4 the baby comes.#fantasychat
- about 9 minutes ago #fantasychat Then I wonder why I don’t have very many friends. I treat people HORRIBLY!
- about 10 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Thanks! #fantasychat
- about 10 minutes ago RT @crista_mchugh: @marilynmuniz Maybe we should start a #fantasychat lottery pool…hehe @maidenhair_#fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Lol! #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Oooh! Good idea!#fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @marilynmuniz You’re a very determined person. I have no doubt that you’ll get the first draft done by then. :)#fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago I had told my agent I could finish my present draft by April when I thought it was about 40% smaller. Pressures on. #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Ah, gotcha! Graceling is on my TBR pile after I get done judging the RITAs #fantasychat
- about 11 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Maybe we should start a#fantasychat lottery pool…hehe @maidenhair_
- about 12 minutes ago @maidenhair_ I agree and which is why I’m giving myself until the end of March to finish my draft.#fantasychat
- about 12 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Graceling. Fire. Bitterblue was a minor character that got her own book. #fantasychat
- about 13 minutes ago @crista_mchugh @maidenhair_ Any type of lottery win that allows me to write full-time would be great.#fantasychat
- about 13 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I’m not familiar with that one - plz enlighten me. :-) #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Actually, I was just a workshop on this, and muse is more of a sidekick & critic is more of a side character #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago Isn’t Kristin Cashore’s Bitterblue kind of like what you’re talking about @crista_mchugh? #fantasychat
- about 14 minutes ago #fantasychat But that was nasty of me & there’s no excuse. I should “ground” myself from Twitter until I can learn to behave myself.
- about 15 minutes ago @Plotspider Bye! #fantasychat
- about 15 minutes ago Think of all the tie in novels that are out there….they elevate side characters quite successfully. #fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago @Plotspider that’s why I wanted that character’s book to be an option book - so I’d only write the story if it was compelling. #fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago Anyway, I must shower. Therefore, I go. See you guys next week. #fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago #fantasychat Sometimes I wonder if our protagonist represents our Muse & Antagonist represents our Critic…
- about 16 minutes ago @crista_mchugh You and me both! ;)#fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Yeah, me too. #fantasychat
- about 16 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Me too, but I think having some sort of deadline gives me a goal, a finish line to aim for#fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago @marilynmuniz @maidenhair_ LOL - If I just win the next Powerball drawing, I can quit the EDJ and write full time. ;-) #fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Or due to executive/agent/editor meddling. Write the story that compels you, of course. #fantasychat
- about 17 minutes ago #fantasychat I don’t know why she keeps trying to attack mine.
- about 17 minutes ago @crista_mchugh I understand completely. And I agree. You also want time to spend with your family. It’s all about balance #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago @crista_mchugh @maidenhair_ I’m enjoying taking my time writing. Because when I have a deadline, I will be freaking out. #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago #fantasychat Sorry guys. I don’t know what that was. I gave my villainess her own Twitter account. :(
- about 18 minutes ago @Plotspider Exactly - look at all the Star Trek spinoffs. :-) #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago I really do wish they could make Robin an interesting character to me, but so far, it just doesn’t work. Just my opinion. #fantasychat
- about 18 minutes ago Personally, I don’t know. Of course, I’ve never been much of a spinoff kind of person, but if it’s compelling, it’s good. #fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago @maidenhair_ But, you also want to make sure you have the time to write good books and not crap b/c of a rushed deadline #fantasychat
- about 19 minutes ago @crista_mchugh …but I guess over-extending yourself and not being able to finish isn’t the way to do it. :) #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @john_zeleznik No argument from me. The same could be said with some of the X-men characters getting their own Marvel spinoffs #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @john_zeleznik he’s just a sequel to Batman.#fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @crista_mchugh You’re right. Learning to say no can be so hard, esp. for a fledgling writer. You want to write, to be published #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Okay, you have me there, so long as that character can continue or even better what Bat started. Otherwise… #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @Plotspider @maidenhair_ There’s no reason for him to shake that association. #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Wait…he did? Tells me how much I know Robin. #fantasychat
- about 20 minutes ago @Plotspider I’ll be having a boy this time — already have a 2yo girl (who’s blessedly napping at the moment). :-)#fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @crista_mchugh DC has been doing it for years, he’s become a staple character for their brand? #fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Do you think he’ll ever break free of his Batman associations? #fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @crista_mchugh LOL #fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @crista_mchugh What are you going to have? #fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Bingo. Sometimes, no matter how tempting an offer is, it’s better for your sanity to say no#fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @Plotspider And at some point Robin took over the mantle of the Bat. There’s loads of potential. #fantasychat
- about 21 minutes ago @Plotspider I disagree. He’s associated with Batman now, yes, but Nightwing has become a hero in his own right. #fantasychat
- about 22 minutes ago @john_zeleznik I’m actually begging my OB to put me on bedrest in a couple of weeks so I can make my deadline… *oops* #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @Plotspider I don’t have an agent, and frankly, I don’t need one at the moment. Maybe later on in my career… #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago He remains…”Hey, wasn’t that guy Batman’s sidekick?” #fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Oh yeah! Sorry…I forgot you were due any time now! Wow! You do have a lot on hands!#fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @john_zeleznik No, not necessarily. Just means he’s stuck in his medium, and isn’t as interesting as Batman.#fantasychat
- about 23 minutes ago @crista_mchugh I know what you mean about time….I’m so busy right now. I’ve got lesson plans I have to write. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @maidenhair_ LOL — depends. We’ll see how I cope when kiddo no2 arrives at the end of April. :-P#fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Then you have plenty of time then to decide whether you can write that book. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @Plotspider Doesn’t mean he’s not a compelling character, does it? #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago Yeah, I know, there are comic books, but translation into pop culture indicates success of the character to me. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @crista_mchugh It sounds like you have your hands full at the moment! But it’s a good kinda problem to have. #fantasychat
- about 24 minutes ago @john_zeleznik True, but how many Nightwing Rises or the Dark Nightwing movies do you see?#fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago Any experience tales to share about dealing with agents, etc. #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @crista_mchugh But eventually Robin became Nightwing. #fantasychat
- about 25 minutes ago @maidenhair_ It’s more of, where am I going to find time to write that book? :-) #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago @Plotspider So true, and I like the character as a sidekick for now. #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago @Plotspider Start at Query Tracker and go from there. #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago Any recommendations? #fantasychat
- about 26 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I’ve actually written a short synopsis, but I have 3 other books to write b4 that 1, so I’m not focused on it #fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago I hear a lot of you have agents and editors and etc. I need to find me an agent, me thinks. #fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Don’t make it a parallel, but I think there’s always potential if there’s an interesting character. #fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago @crista_mchugh lol…it’s easy to give the advice on having faith but harder to take. #fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago @crista_mchugh For me, I don’t want to see the monster’s zipper, and doing so ruins the ride for me.#fantasychat
- about 27 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Have you tried free writing a few scenes with the character to see where it flows to?#fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago @crista_mchugh People think they want a character to take center stage, but then the mystery and intrigue gets killed. #fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago @Plotspider Thankfully, the 3rd book is an “option” book, which means I’m not contracted to write it.#fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Or you get an entire Star Wars about Anakin Skywalker, or yet another example: fourth Pirates of the C. Movie? #fantasychat
- about 28 minutes ago #fantasychat I think I’ll just try to go write & regroup next week. I hate Sunday nights because I know I have to go back to work.
- about 28 minutes ago @maidenhair_ LOL — thanks. I guess I’ll have to go back the drawing board to befittingly torture the hero of book #3 #fantasychat
- about 29 minutes ago @crista_mchugh I’m sorry but I believe that your editor must see the potential in you & your books, so have faith. :) #fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago @marilynmuniz My editor wants a 3rd book to revolve around a character she loves, but I’m having trouble w/what 2 do w/him #fantasychat
- about 30 minutes ago @marilynmuniz That’s largely how I work, too. I have a big place; it’s just figuring out what’s in it.#fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @marilynmuniz That’s a fun ride! I’ve been there myself and it’s exhilarating! #fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @crista_mchugh That’s good in a way. Do you have enough to make it work out to three books? #fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @Plotspider I adjusted. He’s right. Trilogy is easier to sell. Figure if it’s unwieldly, I’ll suggest back to 4.#fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago @maidenhair_ I do, but it hurts. The 2nd book is finally fleshed out enough to where I’m happy w/ it, but the 3rd book … :-( #fantasychat
- about 31 minutes ago If it looks too airy to fit into four, then yeah, three would be good, but if it’s going to rush some things, then maybe not. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Do you think it’ll be crammed into three? Maybe the “you’re the writer” ought to trump?#fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago @maidenhair_ My characters are opening the world up for me. So I’m on the ride with them. #fantasychat
- about 32 minutes ago I’m in the middle of the chapter from Hell right now. It’s ground my writing to a standstill. #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago I thought there was some balance at 4 books, but he’s the agent. #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Ouch! Do you have enough material to develop the other books? #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I can see that. With mine, I needed the world set up so that I could unfold it for my main character #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Mine was fleshed out, but by me as a twelve through seventeen y.o. So, I’m having to grow it up a bit. #fantasychat
- about 33 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Yup but feel free to talk about something else. It’s a free for all during open chat.#fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago I have the opposite issue with series — I wrote a stand alone, and my editor wants to make it a 3 book series. *pulling teeth* #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Rule of three. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago @maidenhair_ My world isn’t filled out completely because I’m focused on the immediate setting my main characters. #fantasychat
- about 34 minutes ago It’s open chat, Christa. So, whatever.#fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago #fantasychat For instance I am a horrible excuse for a human being. I can be cruel & selfish & deserve to be abused.
- about 35 minutes ago I had Seasons of Destiny planned at 4 books, but my agent felt 3 was the better sell. #fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I’m trying to catch up on open chat — seems like we’re talking about series now?#fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago @maidenhair_ I think it happens to writers at one point or another. #fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago Hello. #fantasychat
- about 35 minutes ago I”m thinking of making drinna a two-parter. I left it open for a sequel, but am so irritated with my publishers right now… #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Hey, it’s never too late. :)#fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @crista_mchugh Never too late!#fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @john_zeleznik Hey *waves* #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @john_zeleznik *waves* #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @marilynmuniz The world that I’ve created has a lot of room to play in. :) #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago @marilynmuniz This will be at least three books but I’m trying to leave it open-ended. #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago Is it too late to jump in? #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago #fantasychat Usually I just beat myself up emotionally until I’m so low I need other people to give me encouragement.
- about 36 minutes ago Even if they shouldn’t. #fantasychat
- about 36 minutes ago Sorry I’m later, what’s up guys. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I wouldn’t have much foreshadowing in the first book. The clever reader might skip the intervening. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago Motivation seems to be a common problem with all of us #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago @maidenhair_ I’m planning on a 5 book series but I’m not sure how much of the first book will foreshadow the end. #fantasychat
- about 37 minutes ago I’ll be back. I have to placate the 10 year old.#fantasychat
- about 38 minutes ago I”ve been away from my sequel to Drinna, but plan on putting it in ywriter5 to work out some plot tangles.#fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago I am not doing well on motivation just now. Just trying to get something done. It is a comfort to write, though.#fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Instead of finishing the draft, I took a break and it has been a pain to finish the second half.#fantasychat
- about 39 minutes ago @KristaHolle My point exactly. I think its a very, very fine line. But oh well. #fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Since I’m planning on a small series,I decided to plot out book two so that I could add foreshadowing to this one #fantasychat
- about 40 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I finished my first draft awhile back then took a break. Revisions have been a pain for me.#fantasychat
- about 41 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Have you tried using the mood to help in writing? Kind of a drive? #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Yup! #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Excellent! #fantasychat
- about 42 minutes ago @Plotspider However, the lines can blur a bit there. Kirk and a Vulcan might be fantasy, but Kirk and a mermaid might be PNR. #fantasychat
- about 43 minutes ago @KristaHolle Just checking the definition.#fantasychat
- about 43 minutes ago Ah! Genre labels are the bain of writing! lol#fantasychat
- about 43 minutes ago @Plotspider I think @maidenhair_ is probably right, that this would be more fantasy romance.#fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago @Plotspider Now you’re getting into scifi romance #fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Me too! My goal is finish my draft by the end of March. #fantasychat
- about 44 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Sometimes you just gotta let the anger go. Let them have their party and you focus on something you love :) #fantasychat
- about 45 minutes ago @KristaHolle Yeah. Would that make a romance paranormal? Say, Captain Kirk and a Vulcan or Romulan, or something? #fantasychat
- about 45 minutes ago #fantasychat I am in that mood where I just want to be mean. I don’t know why.
- about 46 minutes ago @KristaHolle I believe it’s a branch off the fantasy tree. #fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago @Plotspider I don’t believe that it’d be a paranormal romance then, rather a fantasy romance #fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago @KristaHolle PNR fits in great with fantasy.#fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago @Plotspider Are you talking PNR?#fantasychat
- about 46 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Very true. I’m the same way. I struggle with it a lot but I continue to persevere! :) #fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago @maidenhair_ PNR fits in well with fantasy. At least I think it does. #fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Would that count if you had a human and another fantasy race, not someone dead? #fantasychat
- about 47 minutes ago @maidenhair_ I want to treat my writing as a part-time work but it is so hard when I’m not feeling well or something pops up. #fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago @maidenhair_ My kids always accuse me of paying more attention to my laptop than to them. #fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago @KristaHolle I’m familiar with paranormal romance, just not the abbreviation. That’s cool. I write a bit of that as well. #fantasychat
- about 48 minutes ago I’ve been in and out of writing, but over all I’m happy with what I’ve gotten done on my WIP #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago #fantasychat I can’t seem to say anything nice tonight. Now I’m in a bad mood. Shame because the weekend was so great.
- about 49 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I know that I need to treat my writing as a job, if I one day want it to be my one and only job.#fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago @Plotspider Open chat. Next week’s topic will be Fantasy Sports!! #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago @marilynmuniz I keep trying to find the regimen that works for me. It’s hard… #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago Well, it’s been a rough weekend, but I’m here. #fantasychat
- about 49 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Paranormal Romance. Romance involving a human and non-human. Twilight is a PNR. The movie Ghost is a PNR. #fantasychat
- about 50 minutes ago @Plotspider *waves* Good! How about you?#fantasychat
- about 50 minutes ago What’s the topic tonight? #fantasychat
- about 51 minutes ago @maidenhair_ It is! I goal is to write at least one hour a day and it still hour to sit down and do it. #fantasychat
- about 51 minutes ago @KristaHolle Forgive my ignorance but I’m not sure what PNR is… #fantasychat
- about 51 minutes ago @Plotspider Hello. #fantasychat
- about 51 minutes ago @Plotspider Hi *waves* #fantasychat
- about 52 minutes ago @maidenhair_ I write PNR, but like a lot of genres. Working or editing my next release. #fantasychat
- about 52 minutes ago Hello all. How are things? #fantasychat
- about 52 minutes ago @marilynmuniz If there even are any.#fantasychat
- about 52 minutes ago @marilynmuniz It’s hard balancing life, work and writing. They all seem counter-productive of one another#fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago @KristaHolle And I’ve been doing the working thing too. Gotta pay the bills. :) #fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago @maidenhair_ My motivation is low at the moment but I think it’s because I’m working again. #fantasychat
- about 53 minutes ago @KristaHolle My current WIP is sorta urban fantasy…but it’s not really urban. lol It’s action/adventure of sorts. You? #fantasychat
- about 54 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Good plan! lol #fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Hi. #fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Doing well. Kids, work, writing…I understand motivation. ;) #fantasychat
- about 55 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Lol! I don’t bother to watch and wait the next day for the highlights. #fantasychat
- about 56 minutes ago @KarenBridget777 Hello :) #fantasychat
- about 56 minutes ago #fantasychat Ah! Somethink to do instead of watch rich people congratulate themselves for being rich.
- about 56 minutes ago @KristaHolle Doing well. I’ve been having some motivational problems with my writing but I believe it’s passed now. And you? #fantasychat
- about 57 minutes ago @maidenhair_ So what do you write?#fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Yup! #fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago @maidenhair_ Hi. How are things with you?#fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago @marilynmuniz Not a problem…I understand. I’ll try and catch up with you this week. #fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago I pre-ordered Game of Thrones on Blu-ray!!!!!! #fantasychat
- about 58 minutes ago I pre-ordered Game of Thrones on Blu-ray!!!!!! #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago So, open chat tonight? #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago @KristaHolle Hello :) #fantasychat
- about 59 minutes ago @KristaHolle *waves* #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @maidenhair_ *waves* #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Hi everyone. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Happy Sunday & hello to all :) #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Tonight’s topic is Open Chat #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Please visit the @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Welcome everyone to @fantasy_chat! Feel free to introduce yourself at any time. Save all promotion until the end of the chat. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Less than 15 minutes before we begin.#fantasychat
Posted on February 26, 2012
#fantasychat 02.19.12 Transcript
- about 1 hour ago @marilynmuniz Wasn’t bad. We could do this one again and talk more. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Drinna, my first published novel, continues to get really good reviews as well. Published at eTreasures. Worth a look#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Good night everyone. I sure am glad this took back off tonight. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Pew. The little ones are in bed but the chat is over. *sigh* #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Writing book 2 of my series and prepping for book 1 to go out to editors. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago My novella The Dust Finders, still only .99 and getting some pretty good reviews, too. Come see, come see. Try Drinna also. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik I don’t watch it. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Visit my blog http://t.co/uGU1VFbt and my group blog http://t.co/ax5CnFdv #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Thanks again for coming, feel free to promo and see you all next week! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Next week’s topic: Open Chat Remember to visit@fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Thank you everyone for attending tonight’s chat!#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I go bananas when my wife turns the Duggers on.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago …adults. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @VeronicaPate The Duggers creep me out.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @VeronicaPate What a shame if that were true. But see, that’s big families with LOTS of children. Wonder if that’s true of… #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat Oh, absolutely! :)
- about 1 hour ago Sorry, I’ve been in and out all hour. Babysitting my brother’s kids for the past couple of hours. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Big families have become increasingly disturbing thanks to the Duggers and those other crazy people on reality TV.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik Probably people would say not everyone can relate to them? Good question, though. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik #fantasychat Oh, they definitely have their own decisions to make! :)
- about 1 hour ago In this day and age of non-traditional families, one wonder why big families aren’t getting their due. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik Maybe because their family doesn’t do all the work for them. They get to fight their own battles.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KarenBridget777 Well, I hope your protagonists do more than in the Disney movie. I hope they get t make choices for thmselves #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat So I definitely have some characters with issues! :)
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat and raises her in the Midwestern U.S. like the good fairies taking Princess Aurora into the woods to hide her from Maleficent.
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik Oh. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @VeronicaPate Well, I teach that, too. Don’t get to do a lot of mythology though except Native American Literature.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago A New Hope. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik ANH? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider That’s better than early american lit. That stuff makes people homicidal. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider I did it in 10th a few years back…had them do Campbell’s stuff with ANH. It was fun. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Since this is kind open night, can I ask a question about a twitter chat? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik Man, you get to do mythology. Fun. I don’t get to. I’m doing modern American Lit. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat I have a long running custody battle in mine. My female protagonist is Circe’s daughter & the heroine’s father takes her (1/2)
- about 1 hour ago Of course, that kind of thing does happen, and especially mythology. Oedipus, Madea (not the new movies but the original myth) #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago High School. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider High school. I’m teaching 9th this year. But I’ve taught every HS grade. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik What grade? I forgot what you’ve said. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider Mythology sometimes. Sometimes I show it when we finish To Build A Fire. Sometimes the day before a long break. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KarenBridget777 Karen, you still here? Join in.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik What’s the unit where you show empire in school? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik It’s great conflict for the characters. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik No prob. Just don’t like that stereotype that males who are friends are only gay. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle Seriously, GL said that. When I show Empire in school I yell at the screen, “THAT’S HIS SISTER!!”#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle Yeah, let’s avoid that. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik Yeah, I heard that. I live in Alabama, born and raised, and well, that’s not that common around here. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider I was speaking metaphorically. ANother of my major themes is male bonding. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik On no. We’re not going that way are we? Next will be WVa jokes. ;) #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik Interesting: To focus on the aftermath of the heroes. Do they fight against the legends being born around? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider @kristaholle GL always said that Alderaan was the Alabama of the SW universe. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago They’re the only robots interacting with the humans and probably they compare notes. I don’t consider 3po to be gay. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik See, I have issues with that. Males can be friends without being gay. Maybe they relate cause both are robots. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @marilynmuniz Thnak you. It’s the added pressure that it’s their generation that has to save the world.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle Ah, that. Well, there’s always the line in RoTJ where Leia says: “Somehow I’ve always known (they were siblings). #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider Come on now. You don’t think Darth Vader was “father of the year” material? ;) #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider @kristaholle C3-P0 and R2-D2=textbook example of a happy gay couple. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik I like it. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago The long lost brother and sister who meet and fall in love. The taboo of the whole thing and how they handle it.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago And I like to sometimes have functional families having difficulties. Try to avoid the Disney syndrome. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle Well, sort of. I don’t think Star Wars has a single functional family. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago My series is about the sons and daughters of the “famous heroes” and how that they are forced to deal with that burden. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat Because the character has to decide if they want to follow their parent’s example or do what they feel is right.
- about 1 hour ago I don’t even think in terms of dysfunction in my story, per se. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider Star Wars comes to mind.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago You could always send the family to another dimension, @plotspider #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I discovered, as I wrote, that I write a lot about fathers and sons. It’s a great theme to play with. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @VeronicaPate Agreed. With no normal there’s no baseline…no substrata to the plot. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat Sometimes a character’s lineage is critical to the story plot. :)
- about 1 hour ago But any ideas on how to have family there, but not interfere in the plot? Esp. in YA fantasy? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle They love to see it among family too I think. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago It’s like no one goes to the races to see the cars go roundy-round. They wait for the crash! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle Everyone needs a couple normies in the family. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle Well, yeah, I agree. It helps to not have just some loner guy with no background and no family. Great Gatsby? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Everyone loves the story of adultery, insanity or revenge. A sad commentary on humanity. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @VeronicaPate Yeah, but that makes it so much more exciting. Who wants to read about the guy who worked 9 - 5?#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago LOL: RT @VeronicaPate: @KristaHolle Or shame and horror over the mental illness that awaits you… either way. ;)#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @marilynmuniz True. And it does muddy the waters with characters sometimes. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider Oh yeah! No need to reinvent the wheel. Take as much of their stuff as you can. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle Or shame and horror over the mental illness that awaits you… either way. ;) #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider It’s important to know but the readers may not need the information. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle I’ve got relatives who have done so much more with it than me. Need to contact them. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik Sounds interesting. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle Like I said, I wish I would make myself do it more. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider Especially the skeletons in the closet stories you’ll uncover. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @marilynmuniz I think it definitely matters. It makes characters far more relatable and real. It’s almost a setting itself. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KarenBridget777 For characters. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider Genealogy has a tendency to instill a little family pride. ;) #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago My whole story revolves around the “sins of the father” kind of thing. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider It may not be important to the readers but you never know. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat Wait is this our family history or family history for our characters.
- about 1 hour ago @john_zeleznik I’m doing more with them in my latest project. I’m using yWriter5 and it does alot of that work for you. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Interesting. Sadly I’ve never thought to use family in a story. I’ll have to give that more thought. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I had post its with the immediate family trees, but as I’m getting further into book 2, I realize I need them.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I would love to have more interest in my family history than I do now, but don’t have a lot of family pride. Don’t know why. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I’ve never really tried so much. I’ve listened to my parents and things, but never tried to do my own. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I’m working on genealogy big time in my series.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago So, my extended family is really quite extended.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Mainly because mine were living fifty miles away or deceased as I was being raised. We visited them often, but not enough. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle I’ve tried to before but haven’t gotten very far. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @marilynmuniz I am working with it. I always forget grandparents and things when I write characters.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago My dad has traced his family back for over a couple hundred years. My husband has for about 150 years.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider Alright, lets do it. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Currently reading G. R. R. Martin and he’s really quite enviable in how he handles that stuff. He makes me jealous of him. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @marilynmuniz Are you into genealogy? Have you done much? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Anything related to family history. Genealogy and lineage and etc. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago We may have this chat anyway :P #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KarenBridget777 Thanks for the support. No worries on time. I understand finances. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Are you talking genealogy? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago What did you mean by family history, cause this could be a two weeker, considering the curtailed night tonight.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle Family history. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat @KristaHolle I have a lot of upcoming expenses but as soon as things settle down, I DO want to read your book. :)
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider Well not at first but now we have a few here. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago What was the topic for tonight? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I’ve lowered my price for V-day. Not much more in sales though. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I see a couple folks here. :( #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @marilynmuniz Aw. Is there no one around?#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider I’m postponing the topic but we can have still have a open chat. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider Cool! Yay! #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago And now I’ve got somewhere in the neighborhood of 20,000 words on a two month old project. Just sayin’#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @Plotspider That’s great. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I gave away a whole bunch of my books, and now people are actually buying. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I have to say I’ve been productive this week. I’ve earned three dollars in sales. The most I’ve had on my own yet.#fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago Hello? Are we on tonight? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago @KristaHolle I’m postponing the topic until next week. It was family history. thanks for stopping by. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago I just joined in. What’s going on? What’s the topic? #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat Shame. Seemed like a cool one. :(
- about 1 hour ago @KarenBridget777 I’ll give everyone a few more minutes before I postpone the topic until next week. #fantasychat
- about 1 hour ago #fantasychat I guess people are busy today.
- about 2 hours ago @KarenBridget777 hello!! Not being productive the last few days. #fantasychat
- about 2 hours ago #fantasychat I’ve had a somewhat productive weekend! :)
- about 2 hours ago Anyone here tonight? #fantasychat
- about 2 hours ago ??? #fantasychat
- about 2 hours ago Please visit the @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc Tonight’s topic is Family History.#fantasychat
- about 2 hours ago Welcome everyone to @fantasy_chat! Feel free to introduce yourself at any time. Save all promotion until the end of the chat. #fantasychat
- about 2 hours ago Less than 15 minutes before we begin!#fantasychat
Posted on February 19, 2012
#fantasychat 02.12.12 Transcript
- about 11 hours ago RT @warrencbennett: @DavidalBarron But chaos can be artificial as well. #fantasychat
- about 11 hours ago RT @DavidalBarron: Maybe I just prefer chaos to the artificial order of Destiny. #FantasyChat
- about 11 hours ago @warrencbennett Now I want to write The Music Man, fantasy-genre prophet-style. XD #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@KarenBridget777 All too true. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @B_Pine Thanks for stopping in! #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @marilynmuniz It was nice to drop by!#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago #fantasychat Thank you! I feel a little better than I did a couple hours ago.
- about 12 hours ago Good chat, Fellow Fantasists! See you next time.#FantasyChat
- about 12 hours ago @maidenhair_ You’re welcome and you too!#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago #fantasychat Sometimes you’ll have your world constructed as carefully as possible and someone else can take a pin & pop the balloon.
- about 12 hours ago It’s been…chaotically interesting, as I foretold it would be… #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @BrWesterberg I like that! #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Thanks again for coming, feel free to promo and see you all next week! #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @marilynmuniz As always…thank you!! Have a great night. :) #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Remember to visit @fantasy_chat’s website at http://t.co/uEk31Xnc #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Thank you everyone for attending tonight’s chat! Next week’s topic: Family History #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@warrencbennett If you have to CREATE Chaos, it’s too organized. Chaos just is, or is not. Until you measure it. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago I’m promoting cause I have to go just now, too. Walking Dead’s coming on. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett thanks for coming!#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@warrencbennett In my house, dinner is just a fantasy. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Interesting questions. If you want to see one attempt at them, come see The Dust Finders. I deal with the idea of destiny. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett Nice chatting with you#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago It’s been an interesting chat but I need to run. ‘Night all! :) #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @B_Pine #fantasychat Prophesies might come true; depends on choices. Destiny implies something that will happen no matter your choices.
- about 12 hours ago Until next week :) #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Okay folks, I’m destined to go eat. I shall talk to you later for it is foretold that food shall soon be coming my way.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@maidenhair_ @DavidalBarron Right, well you’d not want it so neat it’s obvious, but must messy mean “broken”? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @taramayastales and that is a conversation that will drive many stories along :) #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @DavidalBarron Hmm I dunno. I think chaos can be pretty personally artificial, depending on how one goes about creating it #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@DavidalBarron I like Destiny as Motivation. And applying game theory…not sure how? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett Chaos is, at least, impersonally artificial, a construct and result of having consciousness mucking about. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@warrencbennett I think that’s one advantage of having a prophecy, is to talk about fate/free will.#ILovePhilosophyTooMuch #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @DavidalBarron I guess I feel as a writer, you make even destiny messy, chaotic and unexpected. It’s all in the presentation #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago I think, I suspect, I know…the problem is that when I see “Destiny” I say “Motivation”, or apply game theory.#writerspeak #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @maidenhair_ I think Opposing Destinies can be chaotic. And that’s good times. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @maidenhair_ @KarenBridget777 Fast pace books usually take at least hours to read, usually more.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago RT @KarenBridget777: GOOD one! :)?RT@warrencbennett: @Laura_the_Wise What if a prophet mistinterprets it for profit? heh. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @taramayastales I guess I don’t want to know which books are those. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @taramayastales Ah, i see. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Every time a story is told, it is slightly altered in some fashion, isn’t it? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @taramayastales yeah I have one in my universe. Though I do have people talking about fate, etc.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@Plotspider Seen reader told exactly what would happen at end, yet reader says, “Never saw that coming!”#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett @KarenBridget777 I agree. Even if they’re telling the same story, movies and books are very different #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@warrencbennett Nah, I don’t break the 4th wall. They don’t have gods. For them: Does thread control its path in the tapestry? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @KarenBridget777 Movies and books are two different mediums. IF the person doesn’t realize that…#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @taramayastales Seen what happen? Perfect chaos? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago And when I see my mistakes in other people’s works. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @KarenBridget777 I don’t know about that. I”m a bit more critical if the writer’s not doing well. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago #fantasychat this person was frustrated that things didn’t happen as quickly in the book as they did in the movie.
- about 12 hours ago .@Plotspider Seen it happen. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago These are both ideas we will never see in perfect practice. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago #fantasychat I’ve noticed people who have tried to write are often more forgiving. I read some Tweets from someone I follow
- about 12 hours ago @DavidalBarron But chaos can be artificial as well. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @DavidalBarron You don’t think that destiny can be chaotic? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Give two writers the same premise: A person is destined to rule a nation. Each one will write at totally different story. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Maybe I just prefer chaos to the artificial order of Destiny. #FantasyChat
- about 12 hours ago @KarenBridget777 How so? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @Plotspider heh that’d be funny…or sad depending on how it is spun. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago #fantasychat I’ve noticed you can tell a reader who has tried to write something from one who hasn’t.
- about 12 hours ago @taramayastales Do the Characters realize their fate is in the Author’s hand? Or keyboard, as it were. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett I just had an idea. A prophet who does that and suddenly predicts his own demise. Tries to hide it. Funny. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago I didn’t intend to have prophecy in Unfinished Song, but somehow it popped up. Characters know it, so argue if fate exists. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @Laura_the_Wise and yes there can be profit in being a prophet. Just make sure you leave before they find out you are false #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago They’d say: Oh, it can’t possibly happen that way. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago And he still surprise everyone. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago I’ll bet a skilled writer could tell everything that’s going to happen at the beginning of the book and the readers ignore it.. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @KarenBridget777 When done right, it can be very effective #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @Laura_the_Wise XD I am Warren of the Bad Jokes :P #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago GOOD one! :)?RT @warrencbennett:@Laura_the_Wise What if a prophet mistinterprets it for profit? heh. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @john_zeleznik As I asked before, though, have you ever seen anyone using a perfectly translated prophecy and ignore it? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @Plotspider Yup. I like that idea. Confounds the prophet at every turn to do good against those he wants to do evil towards. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago #fantasychat Yeah, misinterpreting is good for a plot device too!
- about 12 hours ago @Laura_the_Wise What if a prophet mistinterprets it for profit? heh. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @Laura_the_Wise I can work with either.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago I like playing with misread prophecies.#spoilers #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett An interesting concept: God uses a false prophet to do real things? Interesting. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@taramayastales If Our Hero is insufficiently credulous, it doesn’t matter how reliable the plot-advancement prophet is. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett Exactly #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago A prophet who is not TRYING to get it right probably won’t. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @KarenBridget777 @Plotspider I prefer the prophet who misinterprets everything. Or everyone else who misinterprets the prophet. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @maidenhair_ you could have a prophet like Balam in the Bible, who wanted to do evil but ended up doing good.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @maidenhair_ I guess that depends on what kind of book you’re writing. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Even a lying prophet’s bound to get it right eventually….like the broken clock theory. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @B_Pine It’s only an asylum if they keep the crazies away from the public. Unfortunately…. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Well think of it like this “I am destined to be a writer” and I sit down and write. Wouldn’t that be a self-fulfilling destiny? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@DavidalBarron Indeed, but in non-scientific world w/o statistical thinking, perhaps prediction = prophecy#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @DavidalBarron Usually, they run crazy churches or religious factions. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago #fantasychat Good point about the lying prophet, @Plotspider That IS a great way for one character to manipulate others!
- about 12 hours ago @Plotspider LOL! Television is the asylum of the modern era! #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago If a prophet lies, he should get a real job.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett I suppose they do go hand in hand #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett Nah, I don’t think that works.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @taramayastales I suppose, if History repeats, but that’s more ‘prediction from available data’. Maybe Our Hero is an outlier? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @maidenhair_ If you have a self fulilling prophecy, can you have a self fufilling destiny? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@KarenBridget777 Prophecy can also be red herring, and destiny is “true interpretation” of prophecy#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @B_Pine Nuh-uh, they’re on television all the time. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @warrencbennett Self-fulfilling prophecy?#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @taramayastales @DavidalBarron the Wheel turns… #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @Plotspider Sure! They are usually in asylums, though. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago I have had prophets that deliberately lie to make people do what they want the other characters to do. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago What if a mother says “This child will grow up to be rich” and he does. Prophecy = Destiny? Or just a mothers wish? #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago You can have lying prophets. #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @maidenhair_ XD sorry I’ll try to stop, heh.#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago Interesting. I don’t think writing about a character’s destiny is completely dependent on prophecy to reveal it though #fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago .@DavidalBarron What about destiny as History Repeats? “All previous X did Y, so you will too.”#fantasychat
- about 12 hours ago @KarenBridget777 From a writer’s perspective that is pretty much on target. #fantasychat